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"The women ready for marriage in this group [of working-class white women] have grown larger than the group of marriageable men who would be good partners. These men—the ones with better jobs and more stable lives—have become more reluctant, in turn, to settle for only one woman."
I realize this is CD, and that means a large number of people will probably voice opinions about this article without bothering to read it first. But I decided to share it anyway in the (perhaps naive) hope that at least a few people would read the whole two pages before sounding off. It actually gives some pretty interesting insight into how economic changes have impacted personal relationships at different levels of society.
"The women ready for marriage in this group [of working-class white women] have grown larger than the group of marriageable men who would be good partners. These men—the ones with better jobs and more stable lives—have become more reluctant, in turn, to settle for only one woman."
I realize this is CD, and that means a large number of people will probably voice opinions about this article without bothering to read it first. But I decided to share it anyway in the (perhaps naive) hope that at least a few people would read the whole two pages before sounding off. It actually gives some pretty interesting insight into how economic changes have impacted personal relationships at different levels of society.
It's a Slate article...I'll read it...but it's a Slate article...just because something is posted on the internet doesn't make it reputable or even true or even worthy of reading.
So the article begins with emotional appeal by citing the case of Liliy as if the case of Lily is indicative of the experience of other women. My initial reaction is great special interest story, which is all this can be, masquerading as journalism masquerading as research. Then there is a link to statistics and I cheer up. OK, great there is a source for the article. I click on the link and it links to some random blog. I'm despondent again. I know I'm wasting my time but I promised the poster I would read it.
"The women ready for marriage in this group [of working-class white women] have grown larger than the group of marriageable men who would be good partners. These men—the ones with better jobs and more stable lives—have become more reluctant, in turn, to settle for only one woman."
I realize this is CD, and that means a large number of people will probably voice opinions about this article without bothering to read it first. But I decided to share it anyway in the (perhaps naive) hope that at least a few people would read the whole two pages before sounding off. It actually gives some pretty interesting insight into how economic changes have impacted personal relationships at different levels of society.
I'd say single moms are best raising their child on their own unless they can find someone who can handle this situation.
Any man that will get involved with a single mom must understand that the children come first. He should not try to interfere with established relationships. The bond between the mother and the child is very important. Whether to get involved with the raising of the child or not should be something that is eased into if it is going to happen. In many cases, you are probably not to get involved in the child rearing.
It's best not to get involved in any relationship with the purpose of just getting something from it, especially getting involved with single parents.
OK, so I finished reading it. This is the relationship section so I guess you don't want me to comment on what qualifies as good journalism and what qualifies as bad journalism. Fine. The article is about Lily. Do I think Lily and Carl should remain together when Carl is a dead beat leaching off of Lily. No. I have a suspicion that the vast majority of the American population would agree Lily and Carl should not stay together. I don't know what makes this news worthy, I mean if you even consider Slate a news outlet which I don't.
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This is hardly a new concept. Sociologists and economists have been studying this issue for quite some time. I recall a book by Kathryn Edin called Promises I Can Keep, which was about low income women and why it made sense (at a certain level) for them to have children on their own. I have a few female friends, and a relation, that had children on their own and both are very happy with their decisions... these are well educated (masters and above) middle income professional women. A highly individual decision that impacts society.
So Carl is not good enough for Lilly to marry/commit(the article pretty much paints him as a loser) but hes' good enough for Lilly to have a baby with? This is the dumbest article I've read in along time. Yeah women raising kids by themselves is a great idea, that's why women are able to naturally have babies on their own, Oh wait never mind. Why don't you ask the Black community how its working out to have the majority of your children to be raised by single mothers. All the statistics show that children do much better in two parent homes with a mother and father, then kids who grow up without a father. This just sounds like a hit piece on men, that modern men are basically losers, and well to do men, don't want to settle down.
At your request I read the entire article
Despite its attempt to pay patronizing lip service to both genders the article ignores the folly of wanting to be a single mom
More to the point single moms who pick losers for a dad often expect their parents to bank roll their bad decisions
The article also tends to guilt trip the winners --the remaining professional men who have caught on to the marital divorce industrial complex
At your request I read the entire article
Despite its attempt to pay patronizing lip service to both genders the article ignores the folly of wanting to be a single mom
More to the point single moms who pick losers for a dad often expect their parents to bank roll their bad decisions The article also tends to guilt trip the winners --the remaining professional men who have caught on to the marital divorce industrial complex
So Carl is not good enough for Lilly to marry/commit(the article pretty much paints him as a loser) but hes' good enough for Lilly to have a baby with? This is the dumbest article I've read in along time. Yeah women raising kids by themselves is a great idea, that's why women are able to naturally have babies on their own, Oh wait never mind. Why don't you ask the Black community how its working out to have the majority of your children to be raised by single mothers. All the statistics show that children do much better in two parent homes with a mother and father, then kids who grow up without a father. This just sounds like a hit piece on men, that modern men are basically losers, and well to do men, don't want to settle down.
I dont know which is worse: the single mom epidemic, the promotion of it, or the women willingly choosing the men they choose to have kids with without any commitment then turn around and get mad at the "no good n****" that they chose.
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This is the dumbest article I've read in along time. Yeah women raising kids by themselves is a great idea, that's why women are able to naturally have babies on their own, Oh wait never mind. Why don't you ask the Black community how its working out to have the majority of your children to be raised by single mothers. All the statistics show that children do much better in two parent homes with a mother and father, then kids who grow up without a father. This just sounds like a hit piece on men, that modern men are basically losers, and well to do men, don't want to settle down.