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Old 12-23-2013, 04:34 PM
 
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As you know, few years ago, we discovered that all Non-Sub Saharan Africans (Whites, Asians, Arabs, Indians, Native Americans, etc.) are 1 to 4% Neanderthals. Two years ago, we also found out that Australian Aboriginals are 4 to 6% Denisovans.

Are all the races really the same when some groups are up to 6% (as we know today and definitely more as we will find in the future) mixed with another group that's non Homo Sapiens?
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:00 PM
 
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As you know, few years ago, we discovered that all Non-Sub Saharan Africans (Whites, Asians, Arabs, Indians, Native Americans, etc.) are 1 to 4% Neanderthals. Two years ago, we also found out that Australian Aboriginals are 4 to 6% Denisovans.

Are all the races really the same when some groups are up to 6% (as we know today and definitely more as we will find in the future) mixed with another group that's non Homo Sapiens?
We're all the SAME species; otherwise there might not be kids and there be NO grand kids on down.
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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We're all the SAME species; otherwise there might not be kids and there be NO grand kids on down.
Are we the same species as Neanderthal and Denisovans?
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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Who are you calling a Homo ?
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Are we the same species as Neanderthal and Denisovans?
It's not that simple. Our DNA, our being humans, is similar enough that we can reproduce. In short, the ties to Neanderthals doesn't actually make us any less homo sapien. If we were incapable of breeding with one another for that reason you stated, then we'd be of different species'.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:45 PM
 
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That of course assumes evolution happens. Which, as fundy loons tell us, doesn't exist.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:21 PM
 
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Are we the same species as Neanderthal and Denisovans?
Yes. Otherwise the kids of such groups wouldn't be able to have kids of their own. Like a donkey tagging a female horse can give a mule but that mule CAN'T have or father little ones.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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So, how true is the statement "Race is a social construct?"
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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So, how true is the statement "Race is a social construct?"

Very true. As stated previously in this short thread, we humans can procreate with each other. If we could not, then we would be seperate species and of a different race other than the human race.

The social construct of race as it pertains to skin color/shade and specific regional origins is a racial construct created in order to subjugate and/or justify the mistreatment of specifica groups of humans on other groups of humans. And FWIW, this is not just a European vs the world sort of thing too, even though Europeans did it on a greater extent in the modern era. But over the course of human history, other humans have conquered and destroyed civilizations under the justification that their specific culture of humans were "different" mostly greater than the others that they were conquering. That was just as much of a social construct as our modern day "racial" issues which were primarily based on the quest to deem non-western Europeans as "less than" as can be easily seen in the justification for slavery in the Americas, the colonization of Asia, Africa, and Australia and portrayed in various literatures, most notably "The White Man's Burden" by Kipling.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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Very true. As stated previously in this short thread, we humans can procreate with each other. If we could not, then we would be seperate species and of a different race other than the human race.

The social construct of race as it pertains to skin color/shade and specific regional origins is a racial construct created in order to subjugate and/or justify the mistreatment of specifica groups of humans on other groups of humans. And FWIW, this is not just a European vs the world sort of thing too, even though Europeans did it on a greater extent in the modern era. But over the course of human history, other humans have conquered and destroyed civilizations under the justification that their specific culture of humans were "different" mostly greater than the others that they were conquering. That was just as much of a social construct as our modern day "racial" issues which were primarily based on the quest to deem non-western Europeans as "less than" as can be easily seen in the justification for slavery in the Americas, the colonization of Asia, Africa, and Australia and portrayed in various literatures, most notably "The White Man's Burden" by Kipling.
Agreed. It's even a problem WITHIN the "Black" world in Africa, not just with Asians or "whites".
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