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So, I don't really get involved in the healthcare debate that much. Frankly kind of tired of the constant arguing about Obamacare. But, I am curious what people's opinion is on why it's inherently bad compared to other universal healthcare systems. Places like Switzerland and France are known to have the best healthcare systems in the world.
What aspects of Obamacare are different that make it worse off than those? Is it by nature an issue of our population size that makes universal healthcare too expensive? AFAIK, Switzerland is mandatory as well (but you can also have private insurance).
Would those opposed to Obamacare support another system that worked better?
So, I don't really get involved in the healthcare debate that much. Frankly kind of tired of the constant arguing about Obamacare. But, I am curious what people's opinion is on why it's inherently bad compared to other universal healthcare systems. Places like Switzerland and France are known to have the best healthcare systems in the world.
What aspects of Obamacare are different that make it worse off than those? Is it by nature an issue of our population size that makes universal healthcare too expensive? AFAIK, Switzerland is mandatory as well (but you can also have private insurance).
Would those opposed to Obamacare support another system that worked better?
Obamacare is a right wing scheme to protect the insurance industry from being put out of business by either a non-profit or single payer universal coverage model. It does little but guarantee never-ending profits for big medicine - hospital corporations, insurers, equipment manufacturers and pharma at the expense of working people. It is the ultimate irony and a testament to how far we have come from our ideals as a "nation of the people" that Obama and the democrats bought into this scheme.
Basically, there are four kinds of healthcare systems out there:
Beveridge is the NHS, Scandinavia and Spain. A big government run system, though places like Norway have a surprisingly large amount of market involved. Like the Veterans in the US.
Bismark is Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands. Insurance based UHCs, for-profit in Switzerland and the Netherlands. Often employer-based. Like employer-based insurance in the US.
National Insurance is Canada and Japan. Like Medicare in the US.
Out of pocket is...well rural Africa and deslike. Like people who don't have insurance in the US and make too much money to qualify for Medicaid.
To my very, very limited understanding of Obamacare, it tries to move the US in the direction of Germany and Switzerland, away from the UK and Canada. The US is basically in the middle right now, with large numbers of Americans on every sort of system.
Wheter it'll succeed remains to be seen.
PS: Frances system, often cited as the best in the world, I understand to be a hybrid thing with a government catastrophic coverage, and private top-up plans above that.
Obamacare is a right wing scheme to protect the insurance industry from being put out of business by either a non-profit or single payer universal coverage model. It does little but guarantee never-ending profits for big medicine - hospital corporations, insurers, equipment manufacturers and pharma at the expense of working people. It is the ultimate irony and a testament to how far we have come from our ideals as a "nation of the people" that Obama and the democrats bought into this scheme.
Let me clarify what I was getting at. Obamacare isn't a reform of healthcare - it's a reform of how we pay for healthcare.
True. For once we agree on something.
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