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Old 11-01-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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After finding this project the large move forward in cybersecurity makes much more sense. They are doing what any corporation would do. They are streamling infrastructure, costs and assets. This helps with management of assets and boost profits.

This just came out in Oct. So clearly they are trying to get everyone on the same page.
NIST Unveils Draft of Cybersecurity Framework

The NGA targets among their goals for governors (a paper they put out in Sept) that they establish a governance and authority structure, reduce complexity, create a culture of risk awareness and focus on the state as enterprise.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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It's easy to build hardened sites.
Wow, what a SILLY statement! It is NOT easy and it is EXPENSIVE. And, often easily broken.

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Most of the sites on the coast and hurricane evacuation routes are on hardened fiber networks, on emergency generator back up with 1000 gallon propane tanks.
I have to ask... do you KNOW what a "hardened fiber network" is?

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The sites may be degraded, but they stay on air until first responders start returning vital service.
Degraded but functioning? That's absurd. They're working or they're not.

First responders DO NOT "fix" vital services. They take care of people.

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New York, for instance. There was cell coverage. It was just slammed busy. The GETS card bypasses and puts you in a hold until the first open circuit becomes available
And NY was a VERY TINY disaster.

In the event of an earthquake, flood, hurricane... The chance of any network remaining functional? Very, very small. This is why after Katrina, it took MONTHS to get telephone and electrical service restored to areas in Louisiana and Mississippi. You can't build backup to last that long that isn't extremely vulnerable to the elements.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:40 PM
 
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After finding this project the large move forward in cybersecurity makes much more sense. They are doing what any corporation would do. They are streamling infrastructure, costs and assets. This helps with management of assets and boost profits.

This just came out in Oct. So clearly they are trying to get everyone on the same page.
NIST Unveils Draft of Cybersecurity Framework

The NGA targets among their goals for governors (a paper they put out in Sept) that they establish a governance and authority structure, reduce complexity, create a culture of risk awareness and focus on the state as enterprise.
Well, we know how the government runs websites.

I'm not sure this is anything other than a giant boondoggle.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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Well, we know how the government runs websites.

I'm not sure this is anything other than a giant boondoggle.
Govt runs many many things.

If it gets built, which seems likely, it will be far more than that. This is completely intertwined with cyber security. Even the way they were using references to first responders.

Looks to be where central control becomes at least dual purpose in a very big way.

Cyber security spending in critical infrastructure to hit $46 bil...
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ABI Research estimates that cyber security spending for critical infrastructure will hit $46 billion globally by the end of 2013. Increased spending over the next five years will be driven by a growing number of policies and procedures in education, training, research and development, awareness programs, standardization work, and cooperative frameworks among other projects.

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Old 11-01-2013, 11:58 PM
 
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Govt runs many many things.
True. And all of them very badly.

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If it gets built, which seems likely, it will be far more than that. This is completely intertwined with cyber security. Even the way they were using references to first responders.
The two are exclusive and there's no reason to think that a public service network will in ANY way "enhance" data security.

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Looks to be where central control becomes at least dual purpose in a very big way.
Central control is the worst possible thing in a disaster.

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Cyber security spending in critical infrastructure to hit $46 bil...
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ABI Research estimates that cyber security spending for critical infrastructure will hit $46 billion globally by the end of 2013. Increased spending over the next five years will be driven by a growing number of policies and procedures in education, training, research and development, awareness programs, standardization work, and cooperative frameworks among other projects.
Sounds like a lot of crony capitalism and government waste, to me.
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:22 AM
 
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True. And all of them very badly.



The two are exclusive and there's no reason to think that a public service network will in ANY way "enhance" data security.



Central control is the worst possible thing in a disaster.



Sounds like a lot of crony capitalism and government waste, to me.
Not sure what 2 you are referencing. Two what? FirstNet is mentioned in conjunction with first responders, but it is also described as an authority. D block is also mentioned as planned for a "public-private partnership". The details for all of it seem sketchy currently. It is one of the first major targets for the entire National network.

I didn't see anyone state what you said in bold.

Central control is what corporations do. Appears to be govt's favorite model. So far the plans and goals do seem fairly clear. The idea is to streamline and guard a smaller target. This is also considered advantageous in cost control and profitability. Network designs can offer much greater diversity and redundancy. I have not seen specific network designs discussed so the use of the word "central control" is being used regarding what is being described.

Govt has driven cyber security in a very big way. Some of the nastiest things imaginable in this field have come out of that development. The writing on the wall seems clear. This trend is very big and attention should be paid.

Global Cyber Security Market to Reach $120.1 Billion by 2017 ...
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According to a new market research report “Cyber Security Market (Identity & Access Management (IAM), Risk & Compliance Management, Data Encryption, Data Leakage Prevention (DLP) Solution, Data Recovery Solutions, Unified Threat Management (UTM), Anti-Virus, IPS/IDS, Web Filtering, Fire-Wall, Vulnerability Management): Advanced Technologies, Geographical Analysis and Worldwide Market Forecasts (2012 – 2017)”, the Cyber security market is expected to reach $120.1 billion by 2017 at a CAGR of 11.3% from 2012 to 2017.
.....As a result, every kind of political and military conflict now has a cyber dimension, the size and outcome of which are complex to forecast, hence making battles fought in cyberspace as imperative as battles occurring on the ground. As hacking is booming and garnering ever-increasing media attention, attempts to target vital international defense installations can neither be ruled out nor mitigated successfully without significant cyber security measures.

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