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Old 10-14-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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...there are no fundamental differences between the two laws. Both programs create exchanges where private insurers compete. Both require individuals to purchase insurance. And both subsidize those who can’t afford it. It’s a relatively new way of extending coverage. Massachusetts was the first place it was adopted, and the Affordable Care Act was the second. The two laws are, in the words of Jonathan Gruber, who helped design both the Romney and Obama plans, “the same ****ing bill.”

To find any differences between the two, you must look to the margins.

The Individual Mandate

This is the part of the Affordable Care Act that really enrages Republicans, whose challenge to it is awaiting judgment by the Supreme Court. It’s an essential part of both plans. The only difference between Romney’s mandate and Obama’s is that Romney’s plan levies a harsher penalty on people who don’t buy insurance.

Romneycare and Obamacare Differ Only in Inconsequential Ways - The Daily Beast


So here is the obvious. We already have a model and a successful model at that, to compare the future of The ACA to. What is the problem righties? Romney care too popular and successful for you? Obviously!
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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Entirely untrue.

Massachusetts was just them.

This is forcing the entire nation into a bad idea. States are free to be stupid if they wish. You can always leave for a smarter one, and states can and do change their policies regularly.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Entirely untrue.

Massachusetts was just them.

This is forcing the entire nation into a bad idea. States are free to be stupid if they wish. You can always leave for a smarter one, and states can and do change their policies regularly.
What an insignificant point when one considers what the right wing is whining about. The compartison totally debunks their gripes and absolutely proves that the success of The ACA is pretty much guaranteed.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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What an insignificant point when one considers what the right wing is whining about. The compartison totally debunks their gripes and absolutely proves that the success of The ACA is pretty much guaranteed.
Claiming that state level and federal level mandates are "insignificant" in difference and impact is simply beyond any level of rational thought.

Frankly, it's a lie so big it can't be hidden.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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I take this thread to mean that liberals are finally acknowledging that Obamacare is....and will continue to be.....a colossal failure, and the only way to not feel like an ***hole is to turn the focus to Mitt Romney.

I feel sorry for you folks. I really do. It must feel terrible at that point in time when you find out you're a naïve moron being led down the path of failure by another naïve moron.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Romneycare was a bad idea in Massachusetts, and it's a bad idea for the other 49 states as well. And since when was Mitt Romney the leader of the right-wing? The right-wing never even liked him much (come to think of it, I don't think he was well-liked by anyone, but that's beside the point).

And also, why do you lefties want so desperately to implement the Republican Romneycare plan? Wouldn't Medicare for All be your preferred reform?
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