57% Fear Government Will Use NSA Data to Harass Political Opponents

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

Of course. With the exception of a few like Bernie Sanders, I don't believe for a second that "liberal" democrats will protect civil liberties. I would much rather side with a civil libertarian republican like Rand Paul before Barbara Boxer.

On this issue most dems and republicans in congress are lock step in agreement.

Too bad we couldn't get a Paul/Kucenich ticket.

[Grsz11]

Originally Posted by Beenhere4ever

My phone is powered off 99 percent of the time. So there's only so much they can collect. But lots of people call and talk about all sorts of things. With the muddle-headed keyword search, anyone of you could get a loud knocking on the door. It has happened! Plus, there are now enough examples of actual terrorists from multiple races, you can't even rely on racial profiling.

A country that is a symbol like America should not be acting so CONTRARY to what we tell the world is right. And it all goes back to congressional insanity in September and October 2001. I'm still waiting for rational remorse to start undoing the damage of that hysteria.

There is a difference between the metadata, which says phone A called phone B and the tapped conversation. Authorization for the former exists and many current members signed it. The latter still requires a warrant, and the legitimacy of that is up for debate. But the most common thing I see is people conflating the two which makes it hard to follow what people are arguing. Nothing NSA gathers is admissible, its for intelligence not prosecution

[Beenhere4ever]

Never forget that laws like Occupational Safety were signed by Nixon. He was more like some of our establishment liberals than he was like Gingrich or McConnell.