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And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
He said that to keep out of government jail, not so people would pay taxes.
Angels appeared to Joseph and told them to flee to Egypt violating government decree. Proving those that ignore the law have the Heavens on their side. They didn't even pay capital gains taxes on the gifts from the Wise Men.
He said that to keep out of government jail, not so people would pay taxes.
Angels appeared to Joseph and told them to flee to Egypt violating government decree. Proving those that ignore the law have the Heavens on their side. They didn't even pay capital gains taxes on the gifts from the Wise Men.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Romans 13: 5-7
Yawn.
Yawn.
The same Paul that wrote Romans also wrote to the Ephesians (6:12) "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." The same Peter that wrote the epistle died at the hands of the government.
And if Jesus was pro-government why did He and His followers spend so much time avoiding the feds? Why was the government always trying to kill them?
Why did Jesus specifically call tax collectors sinners? He doesn't call anyone else a sinner except tax collectors and lawyers. Both are part of government.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Romans 13: 5-7
". . .In defence of the freedom that is our birthright. . .we have taken up arms. We shall lay them down when hostilities shall cease on the part of the agressors, and all danger of their being renewed shall be removed, and not before." John Hancock
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace."
Thomas Paine (no --- not something Jesus would say -- Jesus didnt even have kids)
"The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable; and let it come! I repeat, Sir, let it come!"
Patrick Henry
Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings -- give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else! Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.
Patrick Henry
"I do not think that you can do better than to fix here for a while, till you can become again Americanized."
Thomas Jefferson
He that goes a borrowing goes a sorrowing.
Benjamin Franklin
Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it.
John Adams
"A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader."
Samuel Adams
They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
The same Paul that wrote Romans also wrote to the Ephesians (6:12) "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." The same Peter that wrote the epistle died at the hands of the government.
And if Jesus was pro-government why did He and His followers spend so much time avoiding the feds? Why was the government always trying to kill them?
Why did Jesus specifically call tax collectors sinners? He doesn't call anyone else a sinner except tax collectors and lawyers. Both are part of government.
What we seem to be proving is that the Bible is a contradictory book that isn't worth being followed in the first place.
". . .In defence of the freedom that is our birthright. . .we have taken up arms. We shall lay them down when hostilities shall cease on the part of the agressors, and all danger of their being renewed shall be removed, and not before." John Hancock
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace."
Thomas Paine (no --- not something Jesus would say -- Jesus didnt even have kids)
"The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable; and let it come! I repeat, Sir, let it come!"
Patrick Henry
Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings -- give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else! Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.
Patrick Henry
"I do not think that you can do better than to fix here for a while, till you can become again Americanized."
Thomas Jefferson
He that goes a borrowing goes a sorrowing.
Benjamin Franklin
Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it.
John Adams
"A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader."
Samuel Adams
They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
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Great, but this thread is about what the Bible says about politics, not what other people say.
These are things I should/shouldn't do, it has nothing to do with the government. We are a secular nation that allows religious freedom, not a Christian nation.
You should stop using to make political points if you think it is meaningless. Kinda makes you look a little moronic.
I normally wouldn't use it, but since this thread is about what the Bible says about politics, I figured it made sense.
And with the contradictions we've shown the Bible has, do you think Christians should choose whatever verses suit their argument, or leave it out of the equation completely? Honest question, because if I were still a Christian I would not know the answer to that.
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