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Old 06-08-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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"Whether you believe it or not, there is not one document linking Adolf Hitler to the holocaust. Adolf Hitler never put it on paper what he intended to do. There is no smoking gun. And yet what happened? We know that the Nazis engaged in the Holocaust. Herb Meyer's point was that the people Hitler hired didn't have to be told. They didn't have to be given instructions. All they had to do was listen to what Hitler was saying. All they had to do was listen to what his objectives were. And he said the same thing's happening here with this administration. He went to great pains to say: I'm not calling this administration a bunch of Nazis. I'm just using this as an illustration. I know people will get my point if I use something this notorious, the Nazi regime."

As usually Rush is dead on. Impeach the socialist turd in the WH!

America in the Midst of a Coup d'Etat - The Rush Limbaugh Show
As he pointed out, nobody is calling this administration a bunch of Nazis. This administration never murdered Jews en masse, never started wars of aggression (well, not big ones), never actually burned the printing presses of the opposition, never engaged in massive arms buildups while opponent nations were standing down, etc.

But Hitler in the 30s and 40s repeatedly demonized his opponents, not just as "wrong" (everybody says that about their opponents, that's why they're called "opponents"), but as "evil, despicable, subhuman, lusting for the destruction of the rest of us" and on and on.

And so do a significant number of today's elected Democrats, in varying degrees, right up to the top.

You always get that from fringe kooks, on both sides. And normal people routinely ignore them, as they should. Nothing new about that.

But this is the first time in living memory that elected officials in high places in the United States government, have done it.

It's a necessary step for the government to go on to actually oppressing its political opponents. Hitler knew that well. So when orders in the 1930s started to appear about restricting Jews from owning property in Germany, people could think back to their leaders' recent words and knew that was OK with them, easy to believe that the leaders actually wanted that. And so it was a little easier for the (normally good and decent) regular people of Germany to obey, or at least to look the other way, assisted by a compliant press that mentioned little of the fact and less of its import (sound familiar?). And when curfews against Jews started showing up a few years later, again it seemed to just be the natural progression of things, just a minor step. No direct proclamations from the top guy were needed, everyone knew how he felt. And then the next set of laws, and the next, as the government tightened the clamps on their chosen segment of the population (Jews, in the case of Hitler's Germany).

No, it's not at all necessary for the top guy to issue orders to abuse or oppress certain groups in his own country's population. If the top guy (and those immediately around him) merely hold the attitude that "those people" in his country are not just wrong but evil or subhuman, it's just a matter of time before the lower members of his government take the hint.

And we are starting to see today, where certain members of the government have already taken the hint, and actively begun deliberate abuse, using the power of government to harm and restrict their political opponents. Only in minor ways, of course... just as was done in the beginning in the 1930s. All they need is the confidence that the top guy "would surely approve".

And they clearly have that confidence. And with good reason. Even if they don't have a single written order from the top.

 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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He definitely couldn't....he isn't even debating Rush here on CD and he has resorted to ad-hominem.

The tools are easy to spot.
You mean like the OP started this thread with an ad hominem?
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: texas
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I'm not calling you a nazi or Hitler...and I hate and revile Hitler, but you knida act Hitler-ish.

WTF.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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It would be 'alluding' and it IS the point.
Hitler publicly announced that he would exterminate Jews and how he would do it.


"If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink. They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is cleansed of the last Jew!" (quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler. London: Book Club Associates, 1977, p.116)
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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I'm not calling you a nazi or Hitler...and I hate and revile Hitler, but you knida act Hitler-ish.

WTF.
The germans economy was very bad and the people blindly supported Hitler just like you.

What? Do you think that he has to be called Hitler for the same thing to happen. You know this is bad but because you live on "hope" just as Obama intends you refuse to open your eyes.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: texas
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The germans economy was very bad and the people blindly supported Hitler just like you.

What? Do you think that he has to be called Hitler for the same thing to happen. You know this is bad but because you live on "hope" just as Obama intends you refuse to open your eyes.
I dont know you eray, but I can assure you, your life is 100 times better now, than what the germans[and everyone else] went through under Hitler and his regime.

I play on the internet, but I will bet my last $50 bucks...no one, no one on this forum, has it bad. WWII bad. Nazi Germany bad.

So complain all you like...cry about how bad your life is...and I'll keep enjoying the show.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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So...its ok in your books to call the duly elected representative of the people a nazi and a socialist that needs to be impeached? Really? You cant be serious..
Good luck with that attitude in 2016
While the darling of the Democrats Nancy Pelosi is fondly remembered for actually calling citizens and voters "Nazis", Rush didn't call anyone a Nazi.

You need to read more carefully...you missed this in the original post: "He went to great pains to say: I'm not calling this administration a bunch of Nazis. I'm just using this as an illustration. I know people will get my point if I use something this notorious, the Nazi regime."
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Hitler publicly announced that he would exterminate Jews and how he would do it.
He said that in the early 1920s, when he was nothing but a sick, decrepit kook muttering to himself on street corners in Vienna, along with other vagabonds of his ilk. And he said it privately, though often enough, in a conversation with a colleague, who later recounted it to an author who write it down.

By the 1930s when he was more in the public eye, the sick kook had mellowed his rhetoric to appeal to a large audience, and was merely calling the Jews "inferior, despicable, evil" etc. Those few who had heard his earlier ravings wisely kept quiet about it.

As I said, he knew (or eventually learned) that he didn't have to call for his opponents death and destruction. He merely had to demonize them sufficiently from a high government seat, and get his fellow high public officials to do the same. Those farther down the chain would take the hint, and do the rest. As they did... and as some parts of the American government have now started to do against their chosen "enemies".
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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So...its ok in your books to call the duly elected representative of the people a nazi
What high elected officials are doing that?

Answer: None.

Nice try.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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Rush could have very well made that point without injecting Hitler into his thoughts...But he did not.
Waaa waaa waa.. do you feel better now?
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