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Old 09-25-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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We have hired the Chinese to start doing construction here to save a buck too... In San Francisco the Chinese are doing the major welding and building a huge bridge..
No, all the on site workers were actually American union metal workers. What did come from China was the component parts. BTW I agree with you that they should have taken the American bid because the costs were virtually the same (once you count in the Chinese cost over runs) plus the American bid would have built a new metal fabrication plant in the bay area which could have been used to complete future projects both domestically or for export.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Gone
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China didn't do it Bill Clinton did. Ol Slick sold us out from under ourselves and is still laughing at the bank vault box where he keeps his cigars.

Democrats can not learn from past errors. I hope you are all ok with that.

I grow what i eat. I don't like sulfur, gypsum, methanol, ethylene glycol, propylene glycol, and assorted other toxins in my food to eat.


This pork deal is not for me. What i worry about is getting contaminated items from Red Commie China that will contaminate the SOIL, and the WATER, which I am sure the Democrats have already worked out.

That's what Democrats do best is trash everything and then blame someone else.

If you look at the the problem you will find there is almost no difference between Bill Clinton and a upper class Communist. Under communism nothing is equal. Everything is just different for the peasant class, the Elite always make out just fine.

I don't and won't eat anything that comes from China. There is no telling what it is or what's in it.
Ahhh, I was waiting for the blame it all on the Dems and/or Obama while ignoring the fact that Repubs push the same policies and their handlers, Big Business, are the ones off-shoring American jobs and investments here.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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Ahhh, I was waiting for the blame it all on the Dems and/or Obama while ignoring the fact that Repubs push the same policies and their handlers, Big Business, are the ones off-shoring American jobs and investments here.
Dems imagine their messiah isn't answerable to the same handlers.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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No, liberals are very aware of the fact that Obama is not a liberal and instead is just another corporate controlled centrist. Most of us are very disappointed in Obama, many of us didn't even vote for him in 2012, though some did simply because he was the lesser of two evils. I would love to see an actual 1960's style liberal in office though.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The Smithfield sale was approved today.

Good-Bye to our way of life.

What is "our way of life"?

How will it change?
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I don't trust the Chinese. They had products that are poisonous and dangerous to our health.. they sent over Chinese drywall here that has forced people to move out of their homes because of the breakdown of what is in it. Chinese have taken over the furniture industry, clothing, what haven't they taken over? And we borrow huge amounts of money from them . They are winning the economic war and we are losing. We will be poor soon.
It's our own fault. We're mortgaging the country to them to fulfill our desire to spend more than we earn, we bought everything they sold to fill our demand for cheap products. You reap what you sow.. Now they have the jobs and we don't, they have the money and we don't, soon they'll have the food too... We did this to ourselves.

Karma's a *****.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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Dems imagine their messiah isn't answerable to the same handlers.
Would not know, I am not a Dem and my messiah died over 2000 years ago on a cross. Now do you admit the same problems apply to the GOP, or not?
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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China didn't take jobs. The were given/off shored by the govt to fatten the investment funds.
To compete it is necessary to be the lowest cost producer. The world, let alone U.S. people, are unwilling to pay more so that more U.S. people have middle class jobs.

If we eliminate minimum wage, make right to work a federal law, eliminate labor laws, eliminate the EPA, eliminate OSHA and more, the U.S. will be able to compete with the third world and bring those jobs home. That the U.S. standard of living will resemble the third world is incidental.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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We hand them our food and jobs...what has happened to the collective IQ of the politicians? We know what we are dealing with but no one has the courage to stand with Americans today.
Should the federal government stop public shareholders and/or private interests from selling shares or their business outright to the the highest bidder?

Should the federal government use tax payer monies to nationalize all publically traded U.S. corporations to preclude them being bought by foreign interests?

Should the federal government prevent private land/property from being sold to the highest bidder?
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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China didn't do it Bill Clinton did. Ol Slick sold us out from under ourselves and is still laughing at the bank vault box where he keeps his cigars.

Democrats can not learn from past errors. I hope you are all ok with that.


I don't and won't eat anything that comes from China. There is no telling what it is or what's in it.
And with 8 years of Bush and the repubs in power there was absolutely nothing they could do to turn the ship around?

Its good you are growing your own food Mac as just about everything in the supermarket these days comes from China, read the labels on most canned or frozen seafood products, they are also major suppliers of fruit and vegetables, its almost impossible to buy products that arent originating from China,southeast Asia or Mexico these days, i now usually frequent farmers markets.....
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