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Old 11-05-2007, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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I don't think there are more predators, I just think that we're more aware of them. Also, I don't think it's more difficult for men to have women than in the past. With fewer moral restrictions and lack of dowrys in the US (other than women who feel that they need to marry for money rather than love), I would think it's easier to get a woman. I don't think that porn is the cause either. Men and woman could be deviant in secret if they wanted to be.

I think that it's all in the mind. Regardless of whether a man or woman can or can't get a girl/boyfriend, being attracted to young children is either a matter of taste or it's a symptom of their own sexual abuse as a child.

Also, there are many people who are married or committed to someone who still prey on young kids. That just shows that it's not a lack of having someone that causes that action.

Maybe it's a fetish. Maybe the innocence and vulnerability of a child gives the predator a sense of power, and that's not a state of mind that is unique or more prevalent in our time.

I do agree though, that with all the kids on the net today, it is easier for predators to communicate with minors. That's why it's so important that parents be involved with their kids and make sure they're safe. Can't blame any media or other entity for lack of control. Parents need to know what their kids are doing.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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What about the trend of female teachers having sex with their underage male students? Are these women considered predators? Why is this taking place with increasing frequency? I have my theories, but I'll see what others say first.
I think that's worse than male non-teachers preying on kids. As a future female teacher, I think it's disgusting that they would do this. It's very selfish, when a teacher is supposed to be caring for children on a completely different level than this. If they were attracted to young kids, they would have known this before becoming a teacher, and should have chosen another profession.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:03 AM
 
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Why do they do it? Because they think they can get away with it. Historically, girls were married off in most cultures after puberty, roughly between ages 12 and 15. The idea of making 18 the age of consent for sex is a very modern concept, so it should be no surprise that the law often comes into conflict with historical human nature.
Interesting perspective. Indeed, in many states, the "age of marriage consent" is shockingly low, reflecting societal values of just a hundred or so years ago.

Of course, nobody wants to think of their 14 year old daughter hooking up with some 40 year old perv on the internet.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Interesting perspective. Indeed, in many states, the "age of marriage consent" is shockingly low, reflecting societal values of just a hundred or so years ago.

Of course, nobody wants to think of their 14 year old daughter hooking up with some 40 year old perv on the internet.
There was a case a few years ago where a Central American guy got arrested in LA. I do not remember the details but he was like 23 and married a fifteen year old Central American girl. Apparently in their village that is perfectly acceptable, both families knew about it and were supportive.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:09 PM
 
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Maybe, but that is a different subject.....that is family members molesting each other...these days it's people that other people meet on chat rooms...and there are more things like this happening nowadays
The VAST majority of molestations are still people known by their assailant. Also, male on female rape/molstation is still the biggest group. (I'll try to dig up links with numbers)

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I think the obsession of the MSNBC network with this vulgar affliction encourages a form of voyeurism.
Yes, that and ratings and ratings = money. Trust me, NBC isn't doing this as a moral authority or for the greater good, they are doing it because people will WATCH it and that makes them money. Taking sex predators off the street is simply a byproduct.

Trust me, if this thing didn't pull in ratings, they'd stop making them.

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It is easy to be a perv in the comfort zone of the anon Internet - you don't have to show your sweaty ugly chubby self at the library or teen center - just create an identity and flatter a young girl who craves attention and you are in.
I agree completely. I'm not sure there are more pervs out there, modern technology has just given them an easy outlet to let their sick desires manifest.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Tolland County- Northeastern CT
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These men are largely obsessed with sex- sex addiction, and into kinky encounters.
Most are insecure, and to a degree child molesters' wanting to have sex with a minor; despite its illegality.

Whatever MSNBC's intrinsic motivation to catch these sad men is unknown. But it shows how the Internet has become the new sexual marketplace- and how easy it is to find sex.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:52 PM
 
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We should kill these rabid animals to absolutely prevent them from doing it again.
A terrible idea, and here's why - prosecutions of sexual misconduct or abuse are probably the area of criminal law most subject to 'moral panic' - remember back in the 80's and early 90's when lurid but false tales of satanic ritual sex abuse at preschools and daycares started coming into court?

It turns out that prosecutors and police took very young kids and coached them to lie. This led to dozens of false convictions for some of the worst sorts of pedophilic sex abuse.

Someone like you would have killed those innocent folks. And then what? Once they were exonerated, what would be your reply?

Sex abuse is too sensitive an area for the wanton use of the death penalty. Too many cases turn out to be either faked or full of prosecutor misconduct and so on.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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A terrible idea, and here's why - prosecutions of sexual misconduct or abuse are probably the area of criminal law most subject to 'moral panic' - remember back in the 80's and early 90's when lurid but false tales of satanic ritual sex abuse at preschools and daycares started coming into court?

It turns out that prosecutors and police took very young kids and coached them to lie. This led to dozens of false convictions for some of the worst sorts of pedophilic sex abuse.

Someone like you would have killed those innocent folks. And then what? Once they were exonerated, what would be your reply?

Sex abuse is too sensitive an area for the wanton use of the death penalty. Too many cases turn out to be either faked or full of prosecutor misconduct and so on.
Agree whole-heartedly.

I can certainly attest to "faked" cases, as I unfortunately have one pending against me, thanks to the actions of overzealous law enforcement looking to fatten their arrest quota at all costs.

But the truth is with me. And despite having lost my apartment, military career, savings, and psychological well-being as a result of the case, I am confident that my defense will prevail in court.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Orlando Florida
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I don't think there are more predators, I just think that we're more aware of them. Also, I don't think it's more difficult for men to have women than in the past. With fewer moral restrictions and lack of dowrys in the US (other than women who feel that they need to marry for money rather than love), I would think it's easier to get a woman. I don't think that porn is the cause either. Men and woman could be deviant in secret if they wanted to be.

I think that it's all in the mind. Regardless of whether a man or woman can or can't get a girl/boyfriend, being attracted to young children is either a matter of taste or it's a symptom of their own sexual abuse as a child.

Also, there are many people who are married or committed to someone who still prey on young kids. That just shows that it's not a lack of having someone that causes that action.

Maybe it's a fetish. Maybe the innocence and vulnerability of a child gives the predator a sense of power, and that's not a state of mind that is unique or more prevalent in our time.

I do agree though, that with all the kids on the net today, it is easier for predators to communicate with minors. That's why it's so important that parents be involved with their kids and make sure they're safe. Can't blame any media or other entity for lack of control. Parents need to know what their kids are doing.


I agree with everything you said except the amount of predators nowadays.....I beleive there are more actuall predators nowadays ......maybe before there were lots of people with tendencies to commit these acts but the ability to communicate without being exposed is alot easier now with cell phones and the internet ect.....It's alot easier for people to do this stuff then ever before in our society
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I was watching that show to "Catch a Predator"........I was listening to the excuses about why these guys do what they do when they agree to meet girls that are younger than 18 yrs old......Well in my mind i think there is a couple reasons for why there are more and more "predators" now a days...
The age of consent is 16, not 18, in most places. And I don't think there are more "predators" than there ever were, nor do I feel comfortable describing someone as a "predator" because they were entrapped by Chris Hansen. One could make a strong argument that Hansen and his bosses are the real predators.
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