how can anyone be against school vouchers? (insurance, program, support)
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What have they done with the money they've been given?
Depends on what school you're talking about.
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The worst schools are always the most expensive.
Exactly, because the worst schools have the worst students with the worst parents, and like I've been saying, these people cost way more to educate.
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Where I am, the Detroit schools are some of the most expensive.
Yup.
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Do you really think giving even more money to them will produce better results?
I don't think there's a linear relationship with money and results, however, I do think that defunding schools full of indigent kids is going to produce worse results for those kids.
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FTR, the point to having a voucher system is to defund bad schools.
Which is a stupid goal. It presumes the problem is with the school systems rather than the quality of students attending the schools.
Private schools can educate students cheaper because they lack the amount of admin and other "dead weight" on the payroll. They can deliver a better quality of education because they can get rid of problem children.
This is the point exactly. Private schools don't have the goal of educating everyone.
Public schools DO have that goal. The good ones discriminate by their very nature, they have no intention of educating everyone.
So defunding public schools obviously is going to hurt the kids who would continue attending public schools even with a voucher program.
If you make the voucher program too "strong," then you're either going to have the private schools turn away vouchers because they don't want an influx of indigent kids
If you make the voucher program too "weak", then it's going to pull a subset of "better" public school kids into private schools, leaving behind the public schools completely, defunding them and removing all their best students.
So regardless of how you slice it, you're hurting indigent kids by issuing vouchers.
look we spend a lot on public education, and has it improved at all? no it has not.
I'd say the american public schools have been good for indigent kids.
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all it does it keep the teachers unions flush with our cash, why should the kids of the nation be screwed over to keep a bunch of thugs/bad teachers in there ivory towers?
So get rid of teachers unions. Unions have nothing to do with vouchers.
Obviously the greedy teachers' unions are against them. It might limit how much money they could rake in.
err no, the unions are probably against them because voucher schools will turn the profession into one of grovelling and subservience, like most jobs have already become.
Why should an educated man/woman have to bow down and scrape to a spoilt little rich kid?
Private schools can educate students cheaper because they lack the amount of admin and other "dead weight" on the payroll. They can deliver a better quality of education because they can get rid of problem children. Vouchers would leave the problem and SPED children in public schools. Plus there are children who will fail in any school because they and/or parents don't care at all.
Sad but true, as for the kids with bad patents that has always been, is, and will always be, and no amount of money was spend via government programs will change this...
that being said for the SPED/problem kids it would be a niche market with means competing schools will see that it is a market with has few comparators.
I tend to be a religious person and I agree with you.
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