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To answer your question, yes, you are a conspiracy nut.
The brothers planted and exploded bombs at the marathon. They killed a cop. One is dead, the other in custody, along with his friends who attempted to destroy evidence.
Case closed, move on, find something real to worry about.
Let me help you out a little bit. again, i asked the question "am i consipiracy nut" because i wanted to jog some conversation.
I am NOT a nut becuase in reality, i wasnt there, (were you?) So as i sat back and watched everything unfold, there were things that didnt add up. So i had questions. so not only does the news make mistakes, but if you think the government would never lie to you, you're the nut. all the facts you just spewed out were told to you, unless (as i ask again) WERE YOU THERE? if not, you dont have a right to call anyone a nut.
Also, dont tell me to worry about something "real", that ws very real. happened right in my backyard, and i have every right to ask questions!
Let me help you out a little bit. again, i asked the question "am i consipiracy nut" because i wanted to jog some conversation.
I am NOT a nut becuase in reality, i wasnt there, (were you?) So as i sat back and watched everything unfold, there were things that didnt add up. So i had questions. so not only does the news make mistakes, but if you think the government would never lie to you, you're the nut. all the facts you just spewed out were told to you, unless (as i ask again) WERE YOU THERE? if not, you dont have a right to call anyone a nut.
Also, dont tell me to worry about something "real", that ws very real. happened right in my backyard, and i have every right to ask questions!
There is nothing wrong with questioning things. I try to look at all angles when things don't add up, and go from there.
I wanted to post this under a thread about the Boston Bombings, but I kinda feel like this deserves its own thread, I say this becuase really, it could be related to any other major tragedy. . . .
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I try to think critically of everything. I know not to trust everything i see or hear on TV.
This seems to be contradictory to me, a person who has long taken classes and worked on critical thinking. "Knowing something" without facts, evidence, and specific cases is not critical thinking. It is called bias.
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I love to question everything. I would like to think a lot of you are the same way
We can question the color of the sky. You can question how planes fly. It isn't asking that is often the problem, or understanding.
What are you questioning? Why are you questioning it? Is it worth questioning?
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So then, why if anyone questions if we are getting the full truth, are they then a "conspiracy theory nut"?
You have to be specific. What was your question. The evidence in this case from the 2 perps, their friends, and their web history, even recorded conservations with parents - seem pretty cut and dry.
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I am from Boston. I watched as my whole city got shut down last friday with my eyes glued to the TV. I absorbed all of the info.
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for me, now its time for questions...whereas for others, they are ready to accept the info they have been fed. So quick to label him (Tsarnaev) a terrorist and bash anyone who may think otherwise.
Well, have you not read the series of events? His travel? the conservations about Jihad with mom? his website history? him bragging about it to the kidnap victim? The fact that the younger one has confessed?
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Im not saying this guy and his brother didn’t do those things, but it is certainly not impossible that they didn’t. All im saying is i believe that i do not have the whole story.
It is also not impossible that there is a giant spaghetti monster hiding behind the moon, and ducks anytime we come by. Its not impossible that Satan and God have Coffee every Wednesday at the Starbucks by my work. Yet critical thinking doesn't care about the things that "aren't impossible" we are looking for evidence. I see no evidence here that the narrative being told isn't true. I see no evidence that our govt. can accomplish something like this. I see no evidence that the media can be in on something like this. In fact, everything I've ever seen from the media and govt. show pure self-interest and incompetence in equal measures.
Critical thinking isn't about saying "well, its not impossible that aliens from another planet blew up the boston marathon". Critical thinking is not considering aliens, unless evidence is available.
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in regards to recent events: Did anyone on this forum actually see this man leave a bag there?
Not relevant. This wasn't required in the investigation. They found this guy through camera footage showing pre/post blast. The guy freaked when they put his pictures up and shot an officer.
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did anyone see the video from the police cars from the crazy car chase?
Why is this relevant? You have evidence that the car chase is fake? NO.
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What about surveillance video from the supposed 7 eleven store robbery, or better yet, how about an interview with the clerk from the store that was robbed?
again - this isn't evidence of anything, your pointing out information you don't personally have. Nor do I see as necessary. This would only be important if there was any evidence to another point.
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They supposedly hijacked a car and told the man they were the bombers, where the interview from him?
I've read the interview with the hijack victim last week. Plus - your supposedly highlights a lack of critical thinking, as you don't have any evidence someone wasn't hijacked and plenty of evidence he was (police reports, car victim interviews, etc)
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and the list goes on...
Am i a conspiracy nut?
Based on the above, and the lack of logical/ability and looking to cherry pick your way to convince yourself in some broad conspiracy by the folks who can't pay a disability claim in 1 year; and can't find weapons of mass destruction as promised. . .
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[font=Verdana][color=black]This seems to be contradictory to me, a person who has long taken classes and worked on critical thinking. "Knowing something" without facts, evidence, and specific cases is not critical thinking. It is called bias.
We can question the color of the sky. You can question how planes fly. It isn't asking that is often the problem, or understanding.
What are you questioning? Why are you questioning it? Is it worth questioning?
You have to be specific. What was your question. The evidence in this case from the 2 perps, their friends, and their web history, even recorded conservations with parents - seem pretty cut and dry.
Well, have you not read the series of events? His travel? the conservations about Jihad with mom? his website history? him bragging about it to the kidnap victim? The fact that the younger one has confessed?
It is also not impossible that there is a giant spaghetti monster hiding behind the moon, and ducks anytime we come by. Its not impossible that Satan and God have Coffee every Wednesday at the Starbucks by my work. Yet critical thinking doesn't care about the things that "aren't impossible" we are looking for evidence. I see no evidence here that the narrative being told isn't true. I see no evidence that our govt. can accomplish something like this. I see no evidence that the media can be in on something like this. In fact, everything I've ever seen from the media and govt. show pure self-interest and incompetence in equal measures.
Critical thinking isn't about saying "well, its not impossible that aliens from another planet blew up the boston marathon". Critical thinking is not considering aliens, unless evidence is available.
Not relevant. This wasn't required in the investigation. They found this guy through camera footage showing pre/post blast. The guy freaked when they put his pictures up and shot an officer.
Why is this relevant? You have evidence that the car chase is fake? NO.
again - this isn't evidence of anything, your pointing out information you don't personally have. Nor do I see as necessary. This would only be important if there was any evidence to another point.
I've read the interview with the hijack victim last week. Plus - your supposedly highlights a lack of critical thinking, as you don't have any evidence someone wasn't hijacked and plenty of evidence he was (police reports, car victim interviews, etc)
Based on the above, and the lack of logical/ability and looking to cherry pick your way to convince yourself in some broad conspiracy by the folks who can't pay a disability claim in 1 year; and can't find weapons of mass destruction as promised. . .
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Chris, you have one hell of a lot more patience than I do.
If you are losing sleep over this issue or any of the information from any other issue that does not affect your real life directly you need to seek serious professional help to work through this and move forward in your life. This is not healthy for your mind, body or soul.
Let me help you out a little bit. again, i asked the question "am i consipiracy nut" because i wanted to jog some conversation.
I am NOT a nut becuase in reality, i wasnt there, (were you?)
I was not there when Darwin figured out evolution, but have evidence it happened that is sufficient
I wasn't there when we invaded Normandy, but have evidence and data that it happened
I wasn't there when the Moon was born, but have evidence and support that it happened.
I wasn't there when my parents had sex, but i'm here. . .so
The idea that you being there or having a 1st hand account of everything in order to beleive it is both a stupid assertation, and a weak argument. We fly on planes, drive cars, and use technology built on things invented when we weren't there.
Being there isn't relevant.
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So as i sat back and watched everything unfold, there were things that didnt add up.
Process for conspiracy "nuts" is
bombing/event
oh its a conspiracy
look for evidence it doesn't add up
Things didn't add up, because you didn't want them to add up. I'm doing the math over here, and story looks pretty solid.
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So i had questions. so not only does the news make mistakes, but if you think the government would never lie to you, you're the nut.
Okay, lets stop with the strawman. Pretty big depature from a govt. who witholds information or perhaps let information out that is untrue (i.e. Weapons of mass destruction IRAQ) versus a govt that can orchastrate a complex military operation within its own borders with the complicity of soliders/persons who were brought up to help Americans.
Pretty big reach there, right from the begining. Can a govt lie. yes. No one doubts that. Can the US govt. in its current state bomb its own public events.
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all the facts you just spewed out were told to you, unless (as i ask again) WERE YOU THERE? if not, you dont have a right to call anyone a nut.
I wasn't there when you posted this, so maybe your writing isn't real?
seriously - not being there isn't winning you any arguments. Evidence doesn't require first hand testimony. especially since 1st hand testimony is often the most unrealiable of evidence.
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Also, dont tell me to worry about something "real", that ws very real. happened right in my backyard, and i have every right to ask questions!
You have the right to prey to Zeus. Go for it. Just don't expect anyone to think much of you.
I wanted to post this under a thread about the Boston Bombings, but I kinda feel like this deserves its own thread, I say this becuase really, it could be related to any other major tragedy...
I try to think critically of everything. I know not to trust everything i see or hear on TV. I love to question everything. I would like to think a lot of you are the same way. So then, why if anyone questions if we are getting the full truth, are they then a "conspiracy theaory nut"? I am from Boston. I watched as my whole city got shut down last friday with my eyes glued to the TV. I absorbed all of the info.
for me, now its time for questions...whereas for others, they are ready to accept the info they have been fed. So quick to label him (Tsarnaev) a terrorist and bash anyone who may think otherwise.
Im not saying this guy and his brother didnt do those things, but it is certainly not impossible that they didnt. All im saying is i believe that i do not have the whole story.
in regards to recent events: Did anyone on this forum actually see this man leave a bag there? did anyone see the video from the police cars from the crazy car chase? What about surveillance video from the supposed 7 eleven store robbery, or better yet, how about an interview with the clerk from the store that was robbed? They supposedly hijacked a car and told the man they were the bombers, where the interview from him?
and the list goes on...
I guess i say all this to say, its so frustrating to watch intelligent people bash each other and call people stupid becuase they dont just swallow the spoon fed info we get from the news.
Am i a conspiracy nut?
First off, everyone gets spoon fed information. Unless you were there and you video taped the suspects yourself, then any information you get is being given to you by someone else. Stop pretending that your information is somehow not spoon fed.
Secondly, believe whatever you will, the world won't come to an end because you think whatever about the Boston bombing.
The only question, issue for you is does your conspiracy thinking negatively impact your life?
This is all that matters. Human beings believe all sorts of things, those beliefs are mostly irrelevant.
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