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Old 05-06-2013, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Ah, now I understand. Might this be bitter former military person who's forgotten about what truth is or what a code of ethics is about?
I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but to keep trying to point to one side of Congress and leaving out the other is blatantly and morally wrong at best and highly dishonest at worst.

Both sides have done grandstanding on this and other issues, both sides are trying to out-snake each other and Obama is leading from the Golf Course or from the campaign trail giving the impression he doesn't care about anyone.

This administration, as the one that's been in power (not Bush or anyone else) for the last 5 years is squarely responsible for what's happened both good and bad. Unfortunately they got caught (like Nixon or Clinton) lying to everyone and a price will have to be paid for that like it or not.

C'mon, pull off the Obama colored glasses and see reality for what it is.
What was the lie?

 
Old 05-06-2013, 06:35 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Things Go Horribly Wrong For Fox News When They Ask GOP Congressman for Benghazi Evidence

Fox News tried to push their Benghazi conspiracy theory today, but things went horribly wrong when they asked Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz for evidence and he couldn’t provide any.

The big “news” bit of the segment quickly turned into a trainwreck, as Rep. Chaffetz’s conspiracy not could hold up even under the gentlest of scrutiny by Chris Wallace. What was supposed to be a big moment turned into a huge Fox fail that ended up proving the emptiness of their own Benghazi conspiracy.


Things Go Horribly Wrong For Fox News When They Ask GOP Congressman for Benghazi Evidence

Surprise! Surprise!
Let me ask you, how is that website any more credible than Fox? Because it's completely and thoroughly liberal?
Going to quote Michael Moore next?
 
Old 05-06-2013, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc View Post
Things Go Horribly Wrong For Fox News When They Ask GOP Congressman for Benghazi Evidence

Fox News tried to push their Benghazi conspiracy theory today, but things went horribly wrong when they asked Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz for evidence and he couldn’t provide any.

The big “news” bit of the segment quickly turned into a trainwreck, as Rep. Chaffetz’s conspiracy not could hold up even under the gentlest of scrutiny by Chris Wallace. What was supposed to be a big moment turned into a huge Fox fail that ended up proving the emptiness of their own Benghazi conspiracy.


Things Go Horribly Wrong For Fox News When They Ask GOP Congressman for Benghazi Evidence

Surprise! Surprise!
You've got nothing, you proved nothing, and you refuted nothing. Your video does not prove what you claim.
 
Old 05-06-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We have an arms smuggling socialist turd in the WH.

KUHNER: Blowing a whistle on Benghazi - Washington Times
The difference here is that Nixon did not have the news media protecting him, except for Fox News and CBS News, the news media acts like 0bama's own Praetorian guard.
 
Old 05-06-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Benghazi May Turn Out To Be President Obama’s Watergate

On edit:

Benghazi Is Our Latest Hope For An Obama Watergate.
It's worse, no one died in Watergate
 
Old 05-06-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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It's worse, no one died in Watergate
Here's the deal. Nixon covered up a criminal act, the burglary of the Watergate apartments and efforts to derail a federal criminal investigation both of which are violations of criminal law.

No matter whose version of Benghazi one believes, where is the underlying criminal offense? Even in the extreme, lying about executive policy is NOT a criminal offense. If the relevant fact is that someone died as a result of an executive branch policy decisions... to call that a issue of serious conversation in light of the lives lost due to this, the last or any past administration is laughable in the extreme.
 
Old 05-06-2013, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I find it interesting NBC is actually saying anything, must be something to it?
By Lisa Myers
NBC News senior investigative correspondent
A small team of Special Forces operatives was ready to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi last year after Libyan insurgents attacked the U.S. mission there, but was told it was not authorized to board the flight by regional military commanders, according to a career State Department official scheduled to testify before Congress on Wednesday.
Official: US Special Forces team wasn't allowed to fly to Benghazi during attack - Open Channel
From your article, seems rather high risk and only 4 personnel and the downside is that you are flying into a foreign country, unkown situation. I would bet that the same people would be criticizing sending in those soldiers if they were killed.

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The Special Forces soldiers would have been the second group of U.S. government personnel to travel to Benghazi. Earlier, six Americans flew from Tripoli to Benghazi to attempt to aid the embattled personnel at the diplomatic mission.
Sources told NBC News that Hicks told investigators that the team that was denied permission to fly to Benghazi consisted of just four Special Operations soldiers and that the flight did not arrive in time for their presence to have had an impact in the fighting. Two Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed in the initial attack on the Benghazi consulate, which began just before 10 p.m. on Sept. 11. Two former Navy SEALs died in a mortar attack on a nearby U.S. diplomatic annex early on Sept. 12, shortly before the flight from Tripoli arrived.
Hicks also said that the U.S. did not seek permission from the Libyan government to scramble aircraft to respond to the attack, saying he believed that the show of airpower would have intimidated the Libyan Islamists blamed for the attack.
 
Old 05-06-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
You've got nothing, you proved nothing, and you refuted nothing. Your video does not prove what you claim.
I didn't have to prove anything, but the Congressman did have to, but he DIDN'T. Get it?
 
Old 05-06-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Here's the deal. Nixon covered up a criminal act, the burglary of the Watergate apartments and efforts to derail a federal criminal investigation both of which are violations of criminal law.

No matter whose version of Benghazi one believes, where is the underlying criminal offense? Even in the extreme, lying about executive policy is NOT a criminal offense. If the relevant fact is that someone died as a result of an executive branch policy decisions... to call that a issue of serious conversation in light of the lives lost due to this, the last or any past administration is laughable in the extreme.
You and I are looking at this in two completely different ways. You look at these as if both were legal or criminal issues, they are not. 0bama is not guilty of criminal acts in Benghazi, at least none that I know of. 0bama is guilty of being heartless uncaring man, who places politics above the lives of the American people, he proved that he is inept, incompetent, and derelict in his duties as president.

There may be some illegalities that come out of this also. I don't see that it's against the law for 0bama to ignore Americans while they are under attack, not against the law for him to blow off Stevens so he can study his campaign speech in and go off to bed, without giving a rat's ass if Stevens and the others are alive or dead.
 
Old 05-06-2013, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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That's you basis? I didn't realize it was a pizzing contest. It appears someone can't count because your link shows two attacks in 2008 (Yemen and Serbia) (last I knew Obama was president in 2008) and Benghazi in 2012.

Keep in mind that it was the Libya consulate that was attacked, not the embassy. But let's look at diplomatic missions (embassies and consulates). The majority of the attacks below were on embassies:

Add:

2008:
Turkey


If you are so outraged as to what happened while Bush was in office and it was never addressed, you need to take it up with your party and ask them why they didn't investigate those attacks.
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