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Old 05-10-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Further... it is a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It actually deserves jail time.
Which could also apply if you were to say something those listed didn't want you to say or the catch all article in the UCMJ is always available.
Take article 134 "Disloyal Statements" the Devils Article.

So referring to the UCMJ in these situations is a waste of time since just standing at attention could garner you a violation.

Generals do what they're told, say what they're told if they A.Want to keep their job. B. Want to keep their pension and benefits (quite large) at a General's rank. That leaves pretty much anything a General officer says up for questioning and skepticism.

 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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I don't know?? Perhaps they were reporting news.
Yea, it is not the viewer to make up their mind. Just keep them uninformed. Hell why do we need elections. MSNBC tells you who to vote for and you blindly do as the rich white men tell you to do.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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There is zero evidence that Obama has broken any laws.
So far. Time will tell but I'd bet there's plenty of backstops in place.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I'm saying that the CIA was asked to produce talking points for what occurred in Benghazi. The Weekly Standard just recently published those talking points. Susan Rice's comments on the Sunday talk shows align with the CIA produced talking points both in substance and language used.

So the better question would be did Hicks and the CIA talk? Why wouldn't the CIA be well informed when the larger facility that was attacked was a CIA facility?

My question is why didn't the Republicans not raise this issue at the hearings. Instead of asking Hicks if Susan Rice contacted him, why didn't they ask him if the CIA had contacted him for an after action report.
Turns out those talking points you keep going on about were revised 12 times before Rice saw them. Let's see the original not redacted versions please.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So far. Time will tell but I'd bet there's plenty of backstops in place.
Misleading the public and downplaying a terrorist attack because of reelection campaign aspirations is not breaking the law.

Nuland is the one that held out saying her bosses weren't happy with the revisions until the right revision came along and each revision downplayed the attack and emphasized the movie demonstration.

Get Nuland at the committee to tell us who wasn't happy with those CIA talking points that they had to go through 13 revisions to end up with 2 paragraphs of generic prattle about a protest gone bad and telling us to stay tuned for further information.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Turns out those talking points you keep going on about were revised 12 times before Rice saw them. Let's see the original not redacted versions please.
What? Don't tell us a fluid situation was .... fluid!
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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Turns out those talking points you keep going on about were revised 12 times before Rice saw them. Let's see the original not redacted versions please.
So it's your contention that everything that is ever put out to the public by any government entity, or any corporate entity for that matter, is a first draft? That documents don't have to pass through many hands, each of which make their own revisions, before a final document is produced? Man, you must live in a cave.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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The WH said it was because of a spontaneous demonstration because of a video which turned out not to be true. The White House said it relied on CIA talking points.

But the CIA talking points was edited 12 times that shows that they were dramatically edited by the administration. All references to Al-quaeda and all references to CIA terror attack warnings before the attack were removed. The WH initially said only one word had been changed. Just this week Jay Carney said the changes were only stylistic.

On the 2012 campaign trail Obama said over and over - "Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al-Quaeda is on the run".
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News

But, there's nothing to see here. We should just stop asking for answers and accountability. According to libs anyways.
Why didn't anyone in the latest hearings ask about the origin of the CIA talking points? Why didn't they ask Hicks if he had any input on the CIA talking points or if the CIA had questioned him about the situation in Benghazi? Instead they asked him if Susan Rice herself had talked to him. Susan Rice's comments on 9/16 reflected the original unedited CIA talking points, which were available to the committee prior to the hearings.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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Excellent. Let's have five more hearings about the talking points. We should drag the administrative assistant who typed them in front of Congress to take us through the document and show us all the edits that were made, commas added or deleted, spelling errors corrected, words changed, etc. Because getting to the bottom of those talking points will change absolutely everything. Maybe even resurrect the dead.

Oh, yeah, about those dead--any word on the perpetrators who actually carried out the attack? Shouldn't Republicans at least pretend to show some interest in catching them? Even the most rudimentary lip service about it would give them a perception of credibility.
Why don't you read or listen to what the article actually reveals? I guess you like being ignorant of the lies and distortions of Obama and company. Now, are you really as foolish as you the crap you just wrote? If you would read or watch anything but cartoons on the tv you would know that the republicans have been constantly calling for some type of action from this worthless administration to find the killers. If anyone is a "pretender" it is the current resident of the White House.
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