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Old 03-05-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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Would this be the same "witness" who it was later found out LIED and has credibility issues? That one?

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Yes.......the same witness.

 
Old 03-05-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So it also appears Crump's "discovery" is a liar.
 
Old 03-05-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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Would this be the same "witness" who it was later found out LIED and has credibility issues? That one?

Facts...a beautiful thing...when actually used.
Yes:

" Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the state's most important witness in the George Zimmerman murder case, was caught in a lie Tuesday.
It was not her first, but it was the most damaging to date and left prosecutors in a very awkward position.
They had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it."

George Zimmerman stand your ground hearing - OrlandoSentinel.com
 
Old 03-05-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Yes.......the same witness.

Well, there's this about a teen-aged girl who lied about a hospital admittance and her age:

George Zimmerman stand your ground hearing - OrlandoSentinel.com

And then there's this, regarding the principal focus of the case:

The Many Lies Of George Zimmerman And His Family (LIST) | Global Grind
 
Old 03-05-2013, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake Area
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Would this be the same "witness" who it was later found out LIED and has credibility issues? That one?

Facts...a beautiful thing...when actually used.
Again, these are the facts I presented, which did not come from the aforementioned witness. Do you dispute any of these? FYI, the defense doesn't.
The only facts agreed upon by all parties (prosecutors and defense) are that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation by first following Martin and then getting out of his car to chase him.
 
Old 03-05-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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What they don't want is to reveal their case and strategy to the State and rely on the Judge to rule that the killing was a stand your ground issue.

Big difference between a stand your ground (immunity hearing) hearing and a trial. In the SYG hearing, ONLY THE JUDGE makes the ruling. There is no jury. Also, in a stand your ground hearing, who could testify to Zimmerman's feelings of fear for his life other than Zimmerman? Zimmerman on the witness stand would be a HUGH, HUGH RISK. Zimmerman cannot keep his mouth shut nor is it difficult to "push his buttons" and he would likely convict himself.

I think that waiving the SYG hearing is a clear sign that all those who have been so positive that this is/was a syg case and Zimmerman's release was a slam dunk for all these months, were/are perhaps mistaken.

If O'Mara had a "sure thing" with syg, he would have requested a hearing months ago. It is strategic that he waited so long to waive the hearing.
Sounds like you're assuming he's guilty and everyone would know it if he ever got on the stand.
 
Old 03-05-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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That facts are that Zimmerman followed Martin for a distance... who was walking home from a 7/11 unarmed and doing nothing suspicious. A witness who was on the phone with Martin has stated Martin became scared of the man following him, and began to run. Zimmerman admits this, and admits to getting out of his car to follow him. Zimmerman then ends the call to the non-emergency police line. After that, there are no other witnesses as to what happened. Zimmerman is the only one to claim that he was walking back to his vehicle and was then attacked. The only facts agreed upon by all parties (prosecutors and defense) are that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation by first following Martin and then getting out of his car to chase him.
Find anything from the defense agreeing those are facts and you get a . Meanwhile, .
 
Old 03-05-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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Ah, how lovely. My post was deleted. What's wrong with what I said, OAS ?

I mean, that's what you've wanted all along, right?
 
Old 03-05-2013, 03:06 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yes:

" Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the state's most important witness in the George Zimmerman murder case, was caught in a lie Tuesday.
It was not her first, but it was the most damaging to date and left prosecutors in a very awkward position.
They had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it."

George Zimmerman stand your ground hearing - OrlandoSentinel.com
What does the girl lying about not being at the funeral have to do with the night in question ?????
 
Old 03-05-2013, 03:12 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Ok, calm down. Anyone with an ounce of rational thought can see that the media does a lousy job of reporting the news, rather, they go for sensationalism. The more controversial, (and the more they can make it controversial), the bigger the ratings. Don't be suckered in by those talking heads. They don't care about you or me or anyone else when they "report" the "news".
You should have directed that at the person i responded to and not me seeing as he/she was the one making the claim that nothing was being done in Chicago.
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