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Old 03-02-2013, 01:45 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I originally posted this thread in another forum about a year ago. I wanted to post it here as well.





The last thing I want to do, is hurt any republican, that uses this forum. I am sorry.

I am not the first person to say "the republican party is a cult", European writers have said it, long before I comprehended it. Also, there are (many) American college professors, that classify the republican party as a propaganda group.

I learned all these things from Freespeach and LinkTV on DishSatalite TV.


Fox news and Rush radio are not real news broadcasts, they are actually sneaky corporate publicity commercials. A huge percentage of the things that Fox news, Rush radio, and republican politicians say, are phrases that were created in corporate think tanks. A corporate think tank is a group of people that are paid by a corporation. Their job is to create ideas and (phrases) that will make their corporation more money. And also make that corporation look good in the eyes of the public.

These think tanks literally send phrases in emails, to Fox news, Rush radio, and certain republican politicians. These emails instruct Fox reporters, Rush radio disk jockeys, and certain republican politicians, to repeat these (phrases) on their tv and radio shows, and in their public speeches.

(And after the above group of republicans, say the phrases a few times, the rest of the republicans start repeating them. )

These think tank created phrases then become a republicans political ideals and values.


The following are a few phrases that were created in corporate think tanks. Fox news, Rush radio, and republican politicians have repeated these phrases 1,000's of times.

Note: All the following think tank created phrases, are (lies) and (un-true), according to the scientific and economic community's.

tax cuts increase government revenues
large corporations are forced to pay too much money in taxes (the USA has the 2nd lowest -actual- corp. tax rate in the world.)
the rich are forced to pay too much money in taxes (Warren Buffets tax rate is 17%, regular Americans have a 30% tax rate)
socialism always leads to communism
high min. wage laws hurt the poor
global warming is not happening
the democrats will lead America to communism
democrats medical bills will cause you to get worse medical care
global warming laws will destroy America

There are 100's/1,000's more, and they are all lies.

There are also, many more think tank created phrases, that are much more complex. such as "we want government out of our lives" , "we need smaller government" and "business regulations are hurting America".

(the above phrases work with libertarian republicans ideas to abolish the IRS, EPA, FCC, FDA, public schools, public libraries, Social Security, Medicare, ex.ex.ex. The true goal of these policies is to abolish the IRS, EPA, and the FDA so these agencies can no longer regulate and fine large corporations. And also to privatize Social Security, so the Wall Street CEO's can take $750 billion dollars in fees, and big corporations in the US stock market, can do things like buy new corporate Lear Jets.)

These think tanks also create negative phrases about democrat politicians. The reason corporate think tanks create these phrases, is because the democrats raise taxes on large corporations, and cause them to make less money.

Here are some examples,

Bill Clinton is placing un-fair taxes on the rich
Bill Clinton wants to punish the rich
Bill Clintons taxes on corporations will hurt America
Crazy Al Gore said that he invented the internet
Obama is a secret Muslim
Obama is not a legal US citizen
Obama hates white people
Obama is a socialist, and socialism always leads to communism
Bernie Sanders is a communist


These corporate think tanks also create phrases to attack democrat bills in congress, that would cause their corporations to make less money.

Example,

If a corporate insurance company does not like a bill in congress, because it will decrease their profits, they tell their think tank to create phrases, that will make that bill seem bad to the American people. Then they send the emails with the phrases to Fox news and Rush radio, and they then say the phrases, on their tv and radio shows, and in their public speeches.

Examples,

"this bill will cause you to get worse medical care"
"this bill is socialism, and socialism leads to communism"
"this bill will take away your mothers doctor"
"this bill will hurt America"

They do this for any bill in congress that republican corporations don't like.


The following is another example of how corporate think tanks can get phrases into the republican, (and the general American population.)

I think I heard the following from one of Greenpeaces chairman, on FreespeechTV.
note: Global warming laws in congress, if passed would cause ExxonMobile to make less money.

A while back one of ExxonMobiles think tank work crews, did not like the way "global warming" sounded, the think tank workers thought "climate change" would sound less threatening to the the American public. The think tank then instructed Fox news, Rush radio, and certain republican politicians, to say "climate change" in their news shows and public speeches, rather than "global warming." I personally think it worked very well, I even hear scientists on tv using the new term.

ExxonMobiles think tanks, also instruct the same above people to say the following phrases.

"Global warming may not be happening"
"Global warming is not happening"
"Climate change laws, will cause huge job losses in America"
"The Earths climate changed 150,000 years ago, so climate change is a natural thing"


Everyday republicans believe that their Fox news reporters, Rush radio jocks, and republican politicians are just like them. And they have faith and trust in these people. But these Fox reporters, Rush radio jocks, and republican politicians are different than your average everyday republican, because these people have (millions) of dollars in their bank account, that they got from doing large corporations favors.

The following statement has a source (source: Fear and favor in the news room.)
All of our major TV networks, will not allow information like this, on their news broadcasts.

Why, (in the cold hard Truth) ?

Because the republicans have given tv station owners, $100's of billions of dollars of tax cuts in the last 25 years. (And when some one gives you billions of dollars, you do not say anything bad about them.)

What do these corporate think tanks want ? They want low taxes for Americas rich, low taxes for large corporations, and no regulations on large corporations.


The corporate think tank workers are like telemarketers (in a way), they are like the people that would create a telemarketers sales pitch. I saw a former health insurance think tank worker, on the dvd "Billionaires Tea Party". This think tank worker said that, (he knew that he was manipulating people). And this particular think tank worker felt guilty for it, and spoke about it in the film.

How complex is this phrase manipulating group of republican think tank workers ?

The phrases "we want government out of our lives" , "the Earths climate changed 150,000 years ago, so climate change is a natural thing", and their multi-level talk of "big government" are very complex. There could be a few think tank workers (getting paid big $$ money) and they could be running a (very) complex manipulation mechanism.

According to Bernie Sanders and others, certain republican CEO's have a secret daily meeting to decide what phrases Fox news, Rush radio, and certain republican politicians will repeat that day to the public. Bernie Sanders noticed how republicans at Fox news, Rush radio, and republicans on the Senate floor, would all say the (exact) same phrase, on the (exact) same day.


These think tanks also create emails (some of them with religious themes). These emails get into the general population, and regular everyday republicans end up forwarding these emails to each other.

(the following is a full example)

When you open these (think tank) religious emails, they start to play relaxing classical music, while they tell you to pray, and watch the screen.

Then the following phrases appear on the computer screen,

we are all good christian people
we all need to pray together
imagine everyone in America praying together
our current president (Obama) is against prayer (think tank phrase)
our president (Obama) refuses to pray in public meetings (think tank phrase)
our country is headed down a destructive path (think tank phrase)
let us pray
let everyone pray
this is a time for prayer
this is a time for the prayers and the philosophies of Ronald Reagan (think tank phrase)
let everyone pray, let us all pray together

A very dis-honest person (or) group of people, created the above email. They are putting people into a state of prayer, then they run their (phrases) on the screen. (NOT GOOD !!!)

edit: I just realized that a regular US republican could/may have made this email, still they are all think tank created phrases, and all lies and un-true.

Parts of republican culture worship Ronald Reagan as a God, because he was the president who started the "trickle down" tax cuts for these large corporations, and Americas rich.

This is only the tip of the iceberg, of what these think tanks are having Fox news, Rush radio, and republican politicians (do), and say to the American public.

This is only the tip of the iceberg, of what they are doing.
This is only the tip of the iceberg, of what they are doing.


I would not know any of these things, if I did not get freespeachTV and LinkTV on dish satellite. These TV stations have about 20 documentaries that every American needs to see.


The following Australian made documentary explains much of what I said above.


The Billionaires' Tea Party (Full Length Documentary) - YouTube

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Old 03-02-2013, 02:09 AM
 
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OMG!!!!!!!

It being very late and I am distracted with my bedtime routines, but again, OMG!!!!!!

To quote a sage, liberalism, as practiced today, is indeed a mental disease. It is the liberal left who continue to shout down those who oppose them at every opportunity, It is the liberal left who call names an cry bias wherever they can, even though it is they who control the media and defend Obama and the Obama lies tooth and nail.

Too tired to address your propaganda point by point at this time, but again to quote a sage, I'll be back.

I can feel them nighmares a coming.

PS how's that sequester going? I see that even that liar Obama has conceded that we will see no consequences for several months, even though it was he and his lying Obamabots who were claiming instant repercussions just a few days ago.

Off to dream land.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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OP posts the most sophomoric, inane, inaccurate tripe I have read in a long time.

It's a long list if rants whose basis is someone's personal dislike of a party they disagree with. While I do not fully agree with the agenda posed by either party, I am not so idiotic to believe even 1% of the tripe posted denigrating either party.

BTW, note that "Man Made Global Warming", as a construct is now being proven to be a myth perpetuated on us by people who have slanted data to form a construct they want according to their agenda, instead of using true data to show what is accurate.

While I currently do not have time to personally debunk every accuasation you made above, note that over 99% of it has already been, not only debunked, but in several cases show to be nothing more than empty accusations made by people who have their own personal or party agenda.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:25 AM
 
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the reason that government revenue increased during slick willy's tenure, is because that was during the time of the reagan era. everything that clinton gained, was because of what reagan did, not slick willy.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:34 AM
 
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OP, ya gotta admit the Republicons are amusing. Just keep 'em away from the wheel, but enjoy their psychotic rants.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:15 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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OMG!!!!!!!

It being very late and I am distracted with my bedtime routines, but again, OMG!!!!!!

To quote a sage, liberalism, as practiced today, is indeed a mental disease. It is the liberal left who continue to shout down those who oppose them at every opportunity, It is the liberal left who call names an cry bias wherever they can, even though it is they who control the media and defend Obama and the Obama lies tooth and nail.

Too tired to address your propaganda point by point at this time, but again to quote a sage, I'll be back.

I can feel them nighmares a coming.

PS how's that sequester going? I see that even that liar Obama has conceded that we will see no consequences for several months, even though it was he and his lying Obamabots who were claiming instant repercussions just a few days ago.

Off to dream land.

I did not say those things to defend Obama or democrats. I said those things because I care about America's republicans. And just so you know I personally believe in many conservative ideas, values, and policies.


Fox news and Rush radio are telling you 100's of lies.
And I will start a thread one day and list them.

Fox is telling you lies like "tax cuts for the rich increase government revenues" (when 100% of "respected" economists say they do not)

They tell you global warming is not happening (when 97% of climate scientists say it is)

They tell you rich people pay too much money in taxes. (when billionaires have a 17% federal tax rate, and people who make $90,000 a year have a 30%+ federal tax rate.)

They tell you tax cuts for large US corporations create jobs, and help America. (but economists say new customers and new markets create new jobs (not tax cuts), US corporations use their tax cuts to build US factories in China, pay their share holders, and buy corporate jets.)

They tell you Saddam Husane had something to do with Sept 11. But no government agency on Earth ever said that.

They tell you Obama was born in Kenya. When he has a legal US birth certificate.



How can you stand with Fox news and Rush radio, when they lie to you like that ??

Fox news and Rush radio are funded by greedy CEO's who are only looking for tax cuts for large corporations and Americas rich.

You don't need the lies of Fox news and Rush radio to be a conservative.


Some conservatives are talking about expanding the republican base to get more of the poor and working class vote. I hope that in the process conservatives will learn to get their ideas from conservatives in their own political party, rather than get their ideas from Fox news and Rush radio.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:33 AM
 
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They tell you global warming is not happening (when 97% of climate scientists say it is)
Wrong, that's what the liberal media will lead you to believe. That 97% figure is based on the Doran study and includes a grand total of 77 scientists and that is only the tip of the iceberg concerning the issues with that study.


As far as your post in general, freespeechTV and I quote from their website:

Quote:
Mission

Working with activists and artists, Free Speech TV uses electronic media to cultivate an informed and active citizenry in order to advance progressive social change.
You expect this to be unbiased news source?
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:50 AM
 
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OMG!!!!!!!

It being very late and I am distracted with my bedtime routines, but again, OMG!!!!!!

To quote a sage, liberalism, as practiced today, is indeed a mental disease. It is the liberal left who continue to shout down those who oppose them at every opportunity, It is the liberal left who call names an cry bias wherever they can, even though it is they who control the media and defend Obama and the Obama lies tooth and nail.

Too tired to address your propaganda point by point at this time, but again to quote a sage, I'll be back.

I can feel them nighmares a coming.

PS how's that sequester going? I see that even that liar Obama has conceded that we will see no consequences for several months, even though it was he and his lying Obamabots who were claiming instant repercussions just a few days ago.

Off to dream land.
Liberalism is a mental disease? Now that`s an original thought straight from Glenn Beck who nobody in their right mind would label a "sage" Letting talk show hosts call the shots for the Republican party is why they likely won`t see the White House for at least another decade.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I originally posted this thread in another forum about a year ago. I wanted to post it here as well.





The last thing I want to do, is hurt any republican, that uses this forum. I am sorry.

I am not the first person to say "the republican party is a cult", European writers have said it, long before I comprehended it. Also, there are (many) American college professors, that classify the republican party as a propaganda group.

I learned all these things from Freespeach and LinkTV on DishSatalite TV.


Fox news and Rush radio are not real news broadcasts, they are actually sneaky corporate publicity commercials. A huge percentage of the things that Fox news, Rush radio, and republican politicians say, are phrases that were created in corporate think tanks. A corporate think tank is a group of people that are paid by a corporation. Their job is to create ideas and (phrases) that will make their corporation more money. And also make that corporation look good in the eyes of the public.

These think tanks literally send phrases in emails, to Fox news, Rush radio, and certain republican politicians. These emails instruct Fox reporters, Rush radio disk jockeys, and certain republican politicians, to repeat these (phrases) on their tv and radio shows, and in their public speeches.

(And after the above group of republicans, say the phrases a few times, the rest of the republicans start repeating them. )

These think tank created phrases then become a republicans political ideals and values.


The following are a few phrases that were created in corporate think tanks. Fox news, Rush radio, and republican politicians have repeated these phrases 1,000's of times.

Note: All the following think tank created phrases, are (lies) and (un-true), according to the scientific and economic community's.

tax cuts increase government revenues
large corporations are forced to pay too much money in taxes (the USA has the 2nd lowest -actual- corp. tax rate in the world.)
the rich are forced to pay too much money in taxes (Warren Buffets tax rate is 17%, regular Americans have a 30% tax rate)
socialism always leads to communism
high min. wage laws hurt the poor
global warming is not happening
the democrats will lead America to communism
democrats medical bills will cause you to get worse medical care
global warming laws will destroy America

There are 100's/1,000's more, and they are all lies.

There are also, many more think tank created phrases, that are much more complex. such as "we want government out of our lives" , "we need smaller government" and "business regulations are hurting America".

(the above phrases work with libertarian republicans ideas to abolish the IRS, EPA, FCC, FDA, public schools, public libraries, Social Security, Medicare, ex.ex.ex. The true goal of these policies is to abolish the IRS, EPA, and the FDA so these agencies can no longer regulate and fine large corporations. And also to privatize Social Security, so the Wall Street CEO's can take $750 billion dollars in fees, and big corporations in the US stock market, can do things like buy new corporate Lear Jets.)

These think tanks also create negative phrases about democrat politicians. The reason corporate think tanks create these phrases, is because the democrats raise taxes on large corporations, and cause them to make less money.

Here are some examples,

Bill Clinton is placing un-fair taxes on the rich
Bill Clinton wants to punish the rich
Bill Clintons taxes on corporations will hurt America
Crazy Al Gore said that he invented the internet
Obama is a secret Muslim
Obama is not a legal US citizen
Obama hates white people
Obama is a socialist, and socialism always leads to communism
Bernie Sanders is a communist


These corporate think tanks also create phrases to attack democrat bills in congress, that would cause their corporations to make less money.

Example,

If a corporate insurance company does not like a bill in congress, because it will decrease their profits, they tell their think tank to create phrases, that will make that bill seem bad to the American people. Then they send the emails with the phrases to Fox news and Rush radio, and they then say the phrases, on their tv and radio shows, and in their public speeches.

Examples,

"this bill will cause you to get worse medical care"
"this bill is socialism, and socialism leads to communism"
"this bill will take away your mothers doctor"
"this bill will hurt America"

They do this for any bill in congress that republican corporations don't like.


The following is another example of how corporate think tanks can get phrases into the republican, (and the general American population.)

I think I heard the following from one of Greenpeaces chairman, on FreespeechTV.
note: Global warming laws in congress, if passed would cause ExxonMobile to make less money.

A while back one of ExxonMobiles think tank work crews, did not like the way "global warming" sounded, the think tank workers thought "climate change" would sound less threatening to the the American public. The think tank then instructed Fox news, Rush radio, and certain republican politicians, to say "climate change" in their news shows and public speeches, rather than "global warming." I personally think it worked very well, I even hear scientists on tv using the new term.

ExxonMobiles think tanks, also instruct the same above people to say the following phrases.

"Global warming may not be happening"
"Global warming is not happening"
"Climate change laws, will cause huge job losses in America"
"The Earths climate changed 150,000 years ago, so climate change is a natural thing"


Everyday republicans believe that their Fox news reporters, Rush radio jocks, and republican politicians are just like them. And they have faith and trust in these people. But these Fox reporters, Rush radio jocks, and republican politicians are different than your average everyday republican, because these people have (millions) of dollars in their bank account, that they got from doing large corporations favors.

The following statement has a source (source: Fear and favor in the news room.)
All of our major TV networks, will not allow information like this, on their news broadcasts.

Why, (in the cold hard Truth) ?

Because the republicans have given tv station owners, $100's of billions of dollars of tax cuts in the last 25 years. (And when some one gives you billions of dollars, you do not say anything bad about them.)

What do these corporate think tanks want ? They want low taxes for Americas rich, low taxes for large corporations, and no regulations on large corporations.


The corporate think tank workers are like telemarketers (in a way), they are like the people that would create a telemarketers sales pitch. I saw a former health insurance think tank worker, on the dvd "Billionaires Tea Party". This think tank worker said that, (he knew that he was manipulating people). And this particular think tank worker felt guilty for it, and spoke about it in the film.

How complex is this phrase manipulating group of republican think tank workers ?

The phrases "we want government out of our lives" , "the Earths climate changed 150,000 years ago, so climate change is a natural thing", and their multi-level talk of "big government" are very complex. There could be a few think tank workers (getting paid big $$ money) and they could be running a (very) complex manipulation mechanism.

According to Bernie Sanders and others, certain republican CEO's have a secret daily meeting to decide what phrases Fox news, Rush radio, and certain republican politicians will repeat that day to the public. Bernie Sanders noticed how republicans at Fox news, Rush radio, and republicans on the Senate floor, would all say the (exact) same phrase, on the (exact) same day.


These think tanks also create emails (some of them with religious themes). These emails get into the general population, and regular everyday republicans end up forwarding these emails to each other.

(the following is a full example)

When you open these (think tank) religious emails, they start to play relaxing classical music, while they tell you to pray, and watch the screen.

Then the following phrases appear on the computer screen,

we are all good christian people
we all need to pray together
imagine everyone in America praying together
our current president (Obama) is against prayer (think tank phrase)
our president (Obama) refuses to pray in public meetings (think tank phrase)
our country is headed down a destructive path (think tank phrase)
let us pray
let everyone pray
this is a time for prayer
this is a time for the prayers and the philosophies of Ronald Reagan (think tank phrase)
let everyone pray, let us all pray together

A very dis-honest person (or) group of people, created the above email. They are putting people into a state of prayer, then they run their (phrases) on the screen. (NOT GOOD !!!)

edit: I just realized that a regular US republican could/may have made this email, still they are all think tank created phrases, and all lies and un-true.

Parts of republican culture worship Ronald Reagan as a God, because he was the president who started the "trickle down" tax cuts for these large corporations, and Americas rich.

This is only the tip of the iceberg, of what these think tanks are having Fox news, Rush radio, and republican politicians (do), and say to the American public.

This is only the tip of the iceberg, of what they are doing.
This is only the tip of the iceberg, of what they are doing.


I would not know any of these things, if I did not get freespeachTV and LinkTV on dish satellite. These TV stations have about 20 documentaries that every American needs to see.


The following Australian made documentary explains much of what I said above.


The Billionaires' Tea Party (Full Length Documentary) - YouTube
I always thought we were uneducated hicks according to the dems...lol
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:53 AM
 
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I did not say those things to defend Obama or democrats. I said those things because I care about America's republicans. And just so you know I personally believe in many conservative ideas, values, and policies.

I consider myself a Democrat and I voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. However, I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

Fox news and Rush radio are telling you 100's of lies.
And I will start a thread one day and list them.

I completely agree. Most of their programming is opinion, but they make it seem as if it's news. Most of their base don't realize this and that is why they go crazy when they hear Beck claiming that school vaccinations are a way to control overpopulation.


Fox is telling you lies like "tax cuts for the rich increase government revenues" (when 100% of "respected" economists say they do not)

A booming economy increases government revenues. Republicans believe that tax cuts for the rich help the economy, so it's not really a lie. They simply state it as fact, which isn't true. It's still up for debate. That is what I mean by people can't tell the different between opinion and fact on Fox News.

They tell you global warming is not happening (when 97% of climate scientists say it is)

They tell you rich people pay too much money in taxes. (when billionaires have a 17% federal tax rate, and people who make $90,000 a year have a 30%+ federal tax rate.)

This isn't exactly true. Only billionaires that make their money from capital gains have this kind of tax rate. You don't have to be a billionaire to receive this tax rate either. Simply buy and hold a stock longer than a year. I make a lot of my money from the stock market and I am no billionaire. I also bought my first home not long ago and I plan on selling it for a profit in the future, which is also considered capital gains.

They tell you tax cuts for large US corporations create jobs, and help America. (but economists say new customers and new markets create new jobs (not tax cuts), US corporations use their tax cuts to build US factories in China, pay their share holders, and buy corporate jets.)

I actually believe tax cuts for corporations will HELP create jobs because it will HELP attract new corporations and retain existing corporation to/in the US, which will lead to new customers, new markets and new jobs. I DON'T believe income tax cuts for the wealthy will help create jobs though because they make up too small of the pie.

They tell you Saddam Husane had something to do with Sept 11. But no government agency on Earth ever said that.

Iraq was a distraction, a waste of money and lives.

They tell you Obama was born in Kenya. When he has a legal US birth certificate.

I think the whole birther issue was completely stupid and childish.

How can you stand with Fox news and Rush radio, when they lie to you like that ??

I don't watch Fox News because they are too extreme. It's the same reason I don't watch MSNBC, but I do believe Fox News is more extreme.

Fox news and Rush radio are funded by greedy CEO's who are only looking for tax cuts for large corporations and Americas rich.

You don't need the lies of Fox news and Rush radio to be a conservative.


Some conservatives are talking about expanding the republican base to get more of the poor and working class vote. I hope that in the process conservatives will learn to get their ideas from conservatives in their own political party, rather than get their ideas from Fox news and Rush radio.

The best way to attract more people to the Republican base is to get rid of their 18th century views on social issues.
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