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Old 01-02-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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(NOTE: Do NOT assume I am a Republican. I'm far FAR from it, in fact. Call me an adult realist)

Prez Obama and his cronies are crowing about his political victory this morning, and the usual pro-Dem biased reporting against the hold-off Republicans is out there on CNN, etc. Thanks Wolf B!

Q: do you Democrat liberals feel vindicated his morning? Are our problems all over now, given the total lack of any rational spending cuts accompanying this last-minute super-save? You know: the cuts that those damnable Conservatives had asked for?

In your minds, will the Republic survive this year ? A true repeal of the recession that Evil™ Bush apparently completely caused (don't even think the idea that Clinton had anything to do with it...) , and is still fully responsible for?

Will we all be A-OK when the government can NOT borrow any more funds to pay the Entitlement Set bills this spring? Or all those tax breaks and donations to Hollywood, refunds to the Jamacian Rum Industry, pay-offs to Nascar, moneys to the very profitable railroads (BNSF's profits were staggering last year!) and so on? And the intended continuation of all social spending?

Or, alternately, might you suggest where this will actually lead us in the impending Fiscal Bend in the Road? [I officially claim this all-new moniker of impending disaster, btw... rifleman© 2013]

I'm just honestly curious,if you folks are thinking ahead from now, or if you feel fine and comfy now.

 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Originally Posted by rifleman View Post
(NOTE: Do NOT assume I am a Republican. I'm far FAR from it, in fact. Call me an adult realist)

Prez Obama and his cronies are crowing about his political victory this morning, and the usual pro-Dem biased reporting against the hold-off Republicans is out there on CNN, etc. Thanks Wolf B!

Q: do you Democrat liberals feel vindicated his morning? Are our problems all over now, given the total lack of any rational spending cuts accompanying this last-minute super-save? You know: the cuts that those damnable Conservatives had asked for?

In your minds, will the Republic survive this year ? A true repeal of the recession that Evil™ Bush apparently completely caused (don't even think the idea that Clinton had anything to do with it...) , and is still fully responsible for?

Will we all be A-OK when the government can NOT borrow any more funds to pay the Entitlement Set bills this spring? Or all those tax breaks and donations to Hollywood, refunds to the Jamacian Rum Industry, pay-offs to Nascar, moneys to the very profitable railroads (BNSF's profits were staggering last year!) and so on? And the intended continuation of all social spending?

Or, alternately, might you suggest where this will actually lead us in the impending Fiscal Bend in the Road? [I officially claim this all-new moniker of impending disaster, btw... rifleman© 2013]

I'm just honestly curious,if you folks are thinking ahead from now, or if you feel fine and comfy now.
No they are scared of your rifle
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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(NOTE: Do NOT assume I am a Republican. I'm far FAR from it, in fact. Call me an adult realist)

Prez Obama and his cronies are crowing about his political victory this morning, and the usual pro-Dem biased reporting against the hold-off Republicans is out there on CNN, etc. Thanks Wolf B!
Disclaimers are always amusing.

Quote:
Q: do you Democrat liberals feel vindicated his morning? Are our problems all over now, given the total lack of any rational spending cuts accompanying this last-minute super-save? You know: the cuts that those damnable Conservatives had asked for?
No, the problems are far from over. But this had to happen.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:12 PM
 
Location: NC
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No. Basically I think democrats lost. Spending cuts were merely put off for a few months which will give the GOP a big advantage w the debt ceiling and I don't think taxes, particularly dividend taxes and estate taxes went up nearly enough given how much they would have gone up if we simply went over.

I would have much preferred dealing with the sequester and farm bill and just letting the tax cuts go off the cliff. In fact it would have been really great if Democrats had just passed a clean bill for the taxes in 2010 rather then doing the 2 year BS.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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I'm feeling fine and comfy. I don't care what Norquist says, the reps were forced to break their pledge. Enough of being more loyal to him than to our citizens and our country. Spending cuts are coming. You sound like you think this was the complete deal. There's still plenty to work out.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Hussein will be bent over a barrel and his arse reamed when the debt ceiling talks come in a couple months

And harry the worthless punk reid might want to pass a budget one of these decades
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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1. I am not and never have been a Democrat. But as a liberal, I'll answer anyway.

2. I am very impressed by the leadership President Obama has shown in imposing his will regrading how to avoid the fiscal cliff.

3. Avoiding the fiscal cliff is not the same thing as a comprehensive deficit reduction plan. The last two years have repeatedly shown that Republicans have no intention of participating in such an effort. The past two months have only been more of the same.

4. That matters less now that the Republican far right wing has demonstrated near complete impotence. Obstruction is lost to them as a strategy, the Democrats will extend their influence in both houses during this next Congress, and the moderate center can now take hold again and cooperate with the President on something more targeted towards deficit reduction.

2013 could be a very good year for the country, though not the Tea Party.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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Fiscal Bend in the Road.

I like. :-)
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Hussein will be bent over a barrel and his arse reamed when the debt ceiling talks come in a couple months
Oh my... but it will be hugely fun to watch you eat those words when he pulls the trigger on the 14th Amendment and tells the Congressional Republicans to go pound sand.
 
Old 01-02-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No. Basically I think democrats lost.
One can only stand bemused at the depth of self delusion that has captured the American right.
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