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Old 12-05-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Good. Then don't defend him negociating away people's rights.

most politicians negotiate away the peoples rights.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:57 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Maybe. I attached an article about the new M14. http://170.14.136.22:15871/cgi-bin/b...ion=1562688155
I totally dig the M-14. It has been my fav for a long while. I prefer going old school on it (original wood and no folding stock). I have been jonesing for a Springfield Armory M1 Garand as well. But, yes - when I was in Iraq, there were plenty of complaints about the ineffectiveness of the M4 outside of urban areas.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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most politicians negotiate away the peoples rights.
And some people support such moves, and you sound like sometimes you do, and sometimes you don't. Pick your stance and stick with it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Default complaints?

When I was in 'Nam there were plenty of complaints about the M-16 as well.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I totally dig the M-14. It has been my fav for a long while. I prefer going old school on it (original wood and no folding stock). I have been jonesing for a Springfield Armory M1 Garand as well. But, yes - when I was in Iraq, there were plenty of complaints about the ineffectiveness of the M4 outside of urban areas.
They said the wooden stock was too long for people wearing body armor. The armor pushes the rifle out too much. The new stock was a simple solution for a simple problem.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:27 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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They said the wooden stock was too long for people wearing body armor. The armor pushes the rifle out too much. The new stock was a simple solution for a simple problem.
Yes. I could see how that would be the case. Shorter and retractable are better options for today's soldier. This may change with the advent of the new body armor coming soon. However, I think the days of permanent stocks are over for military purposes as the ability to adjust is just smarter.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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if you are going to limit a person right to own firearms for being a criminal or having a mental illness, then the right to vote based upon that should also be in place.
If the day comes when someone shoots up a movie theater with their vote,killing and maiming 70 people,your idea may have merit.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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With a gun-grabber in the whitehouse embolding people to start calling to ban assault weapons, I have a question.

What makes this:


More dangerous than this:


They both put identical bullets downrange at identical velocities. Since F=ma, the damage caused by these rifles would be identical. Yet the top one is demonized because it "looks scary". Does that make any sense whatsoever??


If looks could kill!

My knife is an assault weapon.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Both rifles are Ruger Mini-14 model .223 caliber semi-automatic carbines. Both shoot the same ammo, both load and fire the same, and both shoot the same speed, and take the same magazines; but uninformed idiots (liberals) will say the rifle on the bottom should be outlawed.


Actually the bottom one is a bolt action, not a semi auto.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If the day comes when someone shoots up a movie theater with their vote,killing and maiming 70 people,your idea may have merit.

My solution is to not restrict my rights, but to ask, why more people wouldn't exercise their right, to have protection from the loonies(they are every where) with them just in case... You never know in this dog eat dog world we live in today.

My 1911 has been going more and more, with me.


No one in that theater was armed. Just think if everyone in the theater was armed. He would not have thought about stepping foot in there.
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