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Old 10-13-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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So, the US trade/Made in China goods have flooded our country with defective air bags. Why does the US allow defective and toxic items to be sold to Americans? Embedded in the link is a video of failed airbags. Also included in the article are the cars involved. Keep in mind people who replaced their airbags in other car models not listed cannot be accounted for.

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U.S. auto safety officials will warn millions of Americans today that the air bags in over 100 vehicle models could be dangerous counterfeits, telling them to have their cars and trucks inspected as soon as possible. The unfortunate catch: Owners will have to pay -- not just for the inspection, but for the replacement of any counterfeit air bags, which could cost more than $1,000 each.
So government opened the US market to China, fails to monitor what is coming in to the US, and then the cost of government's failure falls to the consumer. No penalty to China, no responsibility by government, but you, the consumer, are responsible and pay for it. Clearly this warning is to avoid any lawsuits as a result of loss of life from a defective airbag. You have been warned. If something happens you obviously failed to read the notice - responsibility falls to the consumer.
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The warning only covers vehicles which might have had their air bags replaced in the last three years by any mechanic not connected to a dealership; dealers are required to use factory certified air bags
Why should dealerships be held to a higher standard? Why not any companies who sell airbags or garages be held to the same standard? Why are they even allowed to sell products that apparently weren't inspected or tested for effectiveness?
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Although NHTSA says counterfeit air bags affects "less than 0.1 percent" of U.S. vehicles, that would still be roughly 3 million cars and trucks needing inspections. Officials say the problem shouldn't be that widespread, expecting only tens of thousands of fake air bags have entered use
Shouldn't be? NHTSA has no clue as to how many airbags are out there.

Feds warn millions of drivers to pay for counterfeit air bag inspections | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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If the imported goods doesn't kill ya then the imported food will and if the imported food doesn't kill ya then the unregulated drugs will.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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Why should dealerships be held to a higher standard? Why not any companies who sell airbags or garages be held to the same standard? Why are they even allowed to sell products that apparently weren't inspected or tested for effectiveness?

Feds warn millions of drivers to pay for counterfeit air bag inspections | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos

Admittedly, I have not researched this whole debacle. From what I understand, dealerships only replace with "Genuine XXXX Parts." Insert Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet, etc here. These genuine parts are the same parts used in the original manufacture of the car and are probably held to a standard when either made by the car company or their supplier.

When you decide to have your car worked on by a body shop or repair facility, they can get their parts from ANYWHERE and they often do, which is why you generally pay less for repairs/parts that are not OEM parts. These parts may not be manufactured to the standards the OEM uses.

Believe me, the DoD is having these very same issues with replacement parts that go into weapons, ships, planes, etc. I just attended a fraud briefing on this issue. DoD is not going to have to go back to procuring replacement parts of OEM providers and will no longer be able to acquire parts and a cheaper rate from Mom and Pop shops.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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Most people have never had to replace an airbag and are therefore not affected. For those that have, I would think that the insurance providers should take responsibility for this
and the only people that should have to pay are those that didn't report the accident and had their body work and airbag replaced on the cheap.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:47 AM
 
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Believe me, the DoD is having these very same issues with replacement parts that go into weapons, ships, planes, etc. I just attended a fraud briefing on this issue. DoD is not going to have to go back to procuring replacement parts of OEM providers and will no longer be able to acquire parts and a cheaper rate from Mom and Pop shops.
Did you mean "is going to have to go back"?
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:51 AM
 
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Most people have never had to replace an airbag and are therefore not affected. For those that have, I would think that the insurance providers should take responsibility for thisand the only people that should have to pay are those that didn't report the accident and had their body work and airbag replaced on the cheap.
What about people who bought used cars?? Would they know if the airbag is the original one or could have been replaced by the previous owner?

Why are non-certified airbags, untested, allowed to be sold? We aren't talking about a washing machine part that needs to be replaced. Airbags are meant to save lives.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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What about people who bought used cars?? Would they know if the airbag is the original one or could have been replaced by the previous owner?

Why are non-certified airbags, untested, allowed to be sold? We aren't talking about a washing machine part that needs to be replaced. Airbags are meant to save lives.
Because with more restrictions and regulations one has to charge more. When people cannot afford the costs a black market appears with cheap replacements which get bought up.

We are victims of our own red tape of complex and costly regulations.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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If the imported goods doesn't kill ya then the imported food will and if the imported food doesn't kill ya then the unregulated drugs will.
Yep, I'm still pissed about the deadly dog food they sent over here.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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You all should do more research into Chinese Counterfeits. Some of them are so good that it's nearly impossible to tell they are once they're here. It's not obvious they're counterfeit until they fail.

Look at the examples of counterfeit CPU chips being put into military hardware.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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You all should do more research into Chinese Counterfeits. Some of them are so good that it's nearly impossible to tell they are once they're here. It's not obvious they're counterfeit until they fail.

Look at the examples of counterfeit CPU chips being put into military hardware.
America is flooded with counterfeits. But when it comes to our military and personal safety there needs to be some control/testing/inspecting. I don't give a crap about a handbag or a watch. I do care about products that are toxic and defective and dangerous to our health (as well as animals) and to our military.
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