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Old 09-25-2012, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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As part of “a new era of civil rights” at the Department of Agriculture, Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack announced Monday that Hispanic and women farmers and ranchers who believe USDA discriminated against them can file claims to get a piece of at least $1.33 billion in cash awards and tax relief payments and up to $160 million in farm debt relief, beginning this week.[LEFT]
Read more: USDA offering women, Hispanic farmers over $1.3B in discrimination payouts | The Daily Caller


Obama just loves to take money from hard working tax payers and give it to somebody else.

This is just another reason to get government out of agriculture and agriculture loans. If the USDA did not exist, these farmers would not have suffered from discrimination.

Big government has always led to big discrimination. And Obama loves it... so he can spend other people's money.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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I'm curious to know what the burden of proof and the burden of pursuasion threshold is? Anyone can claim anything. But can they prove it?
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:44 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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This is the third settlement to interest groups the USDA is believed to have discriminated against during the Obama administration.

“When I was sworn in as secretary of Agriculture two years ago, President [Barack] Obama and I made a commitment to mend USDA’s troubled civil rights record,” Vilsack said in 2011 statement. “Since then, we have taken comprehensive action to turn the page on past discrimination. Last year we entered into a settlement with black farmers in Pigford II to address pending claims, and finalized a historic settlement agreement with Native American farmers under Keepseagle that faced discrimination by USDA.”
Third. I remember at the time of the Pigford II there were concerns that there were going to be more of these types of actions. At what point does this all end? This is among the reason we now see a 16 trillion dollar debt.

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The $1.25 billion Pigford II settlement — which covered black farmers who charged that the USDA had discriminated against them when applying for loans from 1981 to 1996 but missed the filing deadline in the original 1999 Pigford settlement (named for the lead plaintiff, Timothy Pigford, in a class action lawsuit against the government) — made headlines in 2011 for the allegations of fraud in the program.
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But critics cite several concerns with the soon-to-be-law. One is that about 33,000 black farms were in existence at the time of Pigford's original filing, yet 80,000 claimants have filed for settlement.
If you miss a deadline for applying that is on you.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The Daily Caller is a poor source of unbiased information.

This action was the result of a lawsuit filed by Hispanic farmers, at least 11 years ago.

The information is available on the USDA website: Claims Filing Period for Hispanic and Women Farmers and Ranchers Who Claim Past Discrimination at USDA to Open on September 24, 2012 | USDA Newsroom

To characterize this as "Obama giving money away" is just partisan hackery.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Even more groups are jumping on board the Pigford fraud bandwagon? Great.


Pigford Fraud: Tom Burrell's Coaching Session - YouTube


As Long As The Money Was Flowing - YouTube


Attempted To Farm - YouTube


Will Darrell Issa Listen To Black Farmers? - YouTube
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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You posters do realize that Obama didn't just GIVE this away. Nor did the President make the decision or determine the amount of funds to go towards this. This was the result of a LAW SUIT being settled. Meaning a JUDGE, independant of Obama's administration, determined that enough evidence and documentation exsisted to PROVE they were indeed discriminated against. Please research or use basic intellect when posting this type of information.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by melpamn View Post
You posters do realize that Obama didn't just GIVE this away. Nor did the President make the decision or determine the amount of funds to go towards this. This was the result of a LAW SUIT being settled. Meaning a JUDGE, independant of Obama's administration, determined that enough evidence and documentation exsisted to PROVE they were indeed discriminated against. Please research or use basic intellect when posting this type of information.
No, you need to research and learn.

Obama introduced the 2007 Pigford bill that lowered the qualifying requirements and made tens of thousands more eligible to collect...
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Supporters of Obama’s presidential campaign argued the then-Illinois senator’s move to resolve late Pigford claims would endear him to Southern black voters during the tough Democratic primary race against former Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.). At the time of the bill’s introduction in 2007, Obama was finding his footing as a candidate and polls suggested he was struggling to attract black voters. He later won almost unanimously among this group against Clinton and then in the general election against Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).
CBC upset over Obama

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...But don't take my word for it. Just ask black farmers like Willie Head and Eddie Slaughter. These Georgia farmers were among the first few hundred to file claims in Pigford before the settlement was hijacked by tens of thousands of people who claimed to have "attempted to farm" and received $50,000 checks using the intentionally low bar of proof that was required.

I've been traveling around the South the past month interviewing people close to the Pigford settlement and it's clear to me that the people who this fraud has hurt the most are hard-working Americans like Eddie and Willie. They have been pressured not to talk about the fraud, in some cases by members of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Lee Stranahan: The Congressional Black Caucus vs. Black Farmers

Obama bought Black votes in 2007 with his Pigford bill, and is buying votes again with a different demographic in 2012.

Obama intimidating a female USDA employee on the Pigford issue...
USDA Employee Intimidated Over Pigford With Obama Letter
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