Supreme irony -- would a single payer health care plan be less vulnerable? (salaries, Canada)
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"Single-payer national health insurance is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains largely private."
your missing the point...or you are not understanding what you are reading
delivery of care...haas/is mostly private...with exceptions like VA, Dept of health clinics, etc
financing is currently through PRIVATE companies
therefore it is not singlepayer
singlepayer the government would DIRECTLY pay the doctor (doctor is the deliverof care)....but medicare/ciad pay a PRIVATE company to pay the docotr...therefore NOT singlepayer
delivery of care...haas/is mostly private...with exceptions like VA, Dept of health clinics, etc
"Single-payer national health insurance is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains largely private."
The least I could do is inform you of what single payer is. Clearly your buddies left a lot to be desired in that area. You agreed with them, right?
Roy, would you like me to respond to these third person remarks you must now rely on?
You poor soul. The third person you talk about happens to be the author of the link you didn't read when you deflected the topic in the first reply. If his definition isn't the same as yours, I will apologize, but it appears about as good as yours. Have you never watched CNN. I used to see Greenfield all the time there.
You showed a ton of ignorance when you referred to Greenfield as a third party attempting to appear to be so much better informed than you are. Nice fail.
"Single-payer national health insurance is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains largely private."
What point am I missing?
this part
a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing
a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing
A single payer to you would be the fed, hiring a million folks who then pay doctors? Is a US military base run by the Pentagon or the civilian contractors that patrol the gates?
You're being contradictory. Now you agree (as long as you chop an inconvenient part out), and now you don't. How exactly is medicare not single payer, again? Would you prefer sticking only with VA because, apparently, your idea of single payer is that it is the same as socialized medicine. No?.
I didnt say medicae, I said medicaid, but even medicare uses private means for delivery of care.
There is no contradiction because NO ONE IS SUGGESTING OTHERWISE..
But we arent discussing SS, we're discussing medical payments, and Blue Cross/Blue Shield are one of the biggest private entities in america who not only process claims but also pay for medical claims for medicaid.
I'm not about to claim to know how to go about all of this but to make things like S.S. work if we are going to keep it and make health care affordable we have to get rid of all of the for profit aspects of running it.
Without these for profit players though, the politicians have no one to go to for cash.
I am not for maintaining S.S. as is but I would like to find a way so that everyone can see a doctor when they have to.
I didnt say medicae, I said medicaid, but even medicare uses private means for delivery of care.
There is no contradiction because NO ONE IS SUGGESTING OTHERWISE..
If you agree with this...
Single-payer national health insurance is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains largely private.
There is contradiction when you say this: "but even medicare uses private means for delivery of care"
So what if delivery of care is private? Does the system cease to be single payer? For that matter, Medicare were expanded to cover everybody, would it not be single payer?
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