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There are 1,500+ posts in this thread, alone, and it, like the milky way galaxy, is just one of billions like it on this very board. That's been established over and over again, you just don't like the answer.
So, establish it - apparently none of the previous attempts have been persuasive. Why are you running away from your big chance to convince me?
What secular purposes do laws against murder and theft serve? After all, secular law allows for theft(confiscation of earned money) and murder(execution of inmates). How can you say that prohibitions against murder and theft do not have religious origins.
Perhaps you should learn the meaning of theft and murder first?
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Which only meant that government should not trample on religion, which exactly what libs use government to do. that "wall of separation" should works both ways you know.
The poster I was responding to was citing law as something that we should respect. I just wondered why the poster rejected current law in most U.S. states.
The poster you responded to was me, and there's a p.sser of difference between working to change a law and not obeying it. As it happens I'm very ill suited for gay marriage for two basic reasons:
you are trying to dramatically fundamentally alter marriage and telling everyone they must except it, or be insulted, maligned, fired from their job, etc... all because gays want to force everyone to endorse their lifestyle choice.
Marriage has already been fundamentally changed countless times. People threw a fit about every other change, and now in this era, you all are throwing a fit about this one.
But just as history has continually shown, you all are on the losing side, and eventually society will be embarrassed over its treatment of gays in this day and age.
It's not that he's refusing because he doesn't like you, but fact is, if you hire someone, and then change the parameters of their job to violate their faith, and then fire them for it, I can't even guess the size of the lawsuit.
What faith has a tenant against processing legal paperwork?
Observant Muslims shouldn't apply for jobs as bacon tasters. That's not bigotry.
Likewise, city clerks who find themselves unable to cope with their religious hang-ups have a completely misconstrued idea of their relative importance. Public servants are not there to make the rules, they're there to carry them out.
but when they were hired there was nothing in the job against they're religion.
Nope, they predate Judeo-Christianity. Most societies throughout human history have had those laws. A completely secular, atheist society would have the same laws. They are required for any civilized nation to function.
Why?
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