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The solution is to put all drug users in prison, especially drugs like crack, meth, and heroin. Bascially eliminate this segment from general society. I know you are saying prisons are already overcrowded. The solution is large outdoor tent camps. If these prisoners insist on smuggling in drugs the punishment should be that they become a human lab rat. Since they like drugs so much test different medications on them to see how they respond.If they die in the process, oh well they shouldn't have been a law beaking drug addict.
An added bonus is that at least some of these druggies hold jobs. By putting them in tent prison it will open up a job for a .good, wholesome decent non-drug user.
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Originally Posted by Frank_Carbonni
The above post is an example of everything that is wrong with conservatives.
So your solution is the killing of hundreds of thousands of people and following the same drug policy as dictatorships? I think North Korea might be a little more up your alley.
My favorite part of your post is how you mention that "at least some [drug addicts] hold jobs". You actually admit that many drug users (and addicts) are in fact functioning members of society; yet you think that "eliminating" them is a reasonable solution for the sole reason that they use drugs and only for that reason.
Representative of everything wrong with conservatism.
Frank, the post in which you referenced.... well... that sounds like something Hitler would have done, eh? You know, the very thing this country fought against in WWII? Human lab rats? WTF? Well then we might as well lock EVERY person up who takes LEGAL drugs too, because they're criminals too!
The problem to overcome is that a lot of conservatives are highly addicted to Reefer Madness and so dearly fear what might happen to the country if just so much as marijuana is legalized. Conservatives also firmly believe in that marijuana is a gateway drug, even though that theory has been strongly discounted.
No s***! A lot of those conservatives post right here on CD. Yep, they're all for small government and keeping the government out of our lives, unless it's an activity or something that they don't approve of.
We've jailed, killed, and ruined the lives of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of American's in the past 4 decades.
Has demand been reduced?
No.
Why? Because humans like mind altering substances, and they will take them regardless of who tells them not to. And the idea that we possess the authority to tell someone they cannot put something in their own body that they want to put there is offensive on it's face.
We may have a lot of people in prisons but our homicide rates are way way down. They're down to 1911 levels, lower than in many decades.
Mexico does not put killers and drug traffickers in prison. Chapo Guzman the evil leader who ordered up one side of these deaths roams about a free man as well as his henchmen.
No way should we change our laws because there are problems in another country and believe that like magic, something will change in that other country.
Mexico actually is better but the answer to all it's problems is not for us to change our own domestic laws. Really that makes no sense at all. And what laws do we change to fix all the problems in Brazil which has double the homicde rate of Mexico?
One more thing, you still get drugs from cartels not legit places in mexico. Thus continuing to enrich cartels.
In Mexico, you can get drugs from the sidewalk corner taco stand. You can get them in most bars and nightclubs. Essentially drugs are legal there, every kind of drug including meth was decriminalized. It didn't help their problem.
Seriously none of those 23 killed in Nuevo Laredo the other day were good innocent people. It's just one cartel doing battle with the other cartel -- these people are just taking each other out, they are not missed.
Who cares? These greedy individuals knew exactly what they were doing when they got involved in the cartels. We don't really know they were drug traffickers or doing some other work for their cartels, they could have been cartel hitmen, look-outs, kidnappers.
It's not our problem - we don't have Americans dangling off bridges like Christmas decorations, this is Mexico's problem.
In fact our homicide rates are 1911 levels, lower than in the past significantly.
A false assumption is to assume these greedy money lusting individuals will simply give up their immense greed and bloodthirsty ways and just be content to pick chiles. They will still love money, they will still kill for money. It's idiotic to think changing our laws for another country's benefit is some easy answer that will solve everything.
Being as this is just the same as a Civil war we better let it be our problem because we are part of it.
Who cares? These greedy individuals knew exactly what they were doing when they got involved in the cartels. We don't really know they were drug traffickers or doing some other work for their cartels, they could have been cartel hitmen, look-outs, kidnappers.
It's not our problem - we don't have Americans dangling off bridges like Christmas decorations, this is Mexico's problem.
In fact our homicide rates are 1911 levels, lower than in the past significantly.
A false assumption is to assume these greedy money lusting individuals will simply give up their immense greed and bloodthirsty ways and just be content to pick chiles. They will still love money, they will still kill for money. It's idiotic to think changing our laws for another country's benefit is some easy answer that will solve everything.
As has already been noted several times, the majority of people who were involved in illegal pursuits during Prohibition did indeed change their ways. Those who were seriously committed to that lifestyle developed new business plans and moved on to other things, like building Las Vegas (for example).
History shows us that things do change and maintaining the status quo is absolutely not working.
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You know, the very thing this country fought against in WWII? Human lab rats? WTF?
Well then we might as well lock EVERY person up who takes LEGAL drugs too, because they're criminals too!
