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Old 05-03-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It is now time for the Congress to determine who will continue to run the government, the Executive or that branch and Congress. I just hope that they don't back down on this or they will be nearly completely irrelevant, like it or not.


“The Justice Department’s failure to respond appropriately to the allegations of whistleblowers and to cooperate with Congressional oversight has crossed the line of appropriate conduct for a government agency,” Issa adds.

“Congress now faces a moment of decision between exerting its full authority to compel an agency refusing to cooperate with congressional oversight or accepting a dangerous expansion of Executive Branch authority and unilateral action allowing agencies to set their own terms for cooperating with congressional oversight.”


How much of this is not true and what we are faced with from Fast and Furious?

House Drafts Contempt Citation Against Holder Over Fast and Furious
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:11 PM
 
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Default Hold your horse, not so fast, not so furious.....

AG-Holder has not yet been charged with contempt. The citation has been drawn up, that is all. This is the first formal step, nothing more. Unfortunatly, I doubt Speaker Boehner has either the spine or the pair to follow through.


The Case for Holding AG Holder in Contempt for Fast & Furious - YouTube

Listen carefully at 2:33 about false statements and cover-up.

At 3:26 Chairman Issa leaves Holder and the Obama administration an out.....
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:36 AM
 
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I hope Holder gets buried UNDER the jail....he totally deserves it. But I expect this to go the way of the Cheney and Bush "citations" that were drawn up by Kucinich....which, ironically, were squashed by nobody other than Nancy Pelosi and friends.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Congress is filled with career politicians whose first priority is getting re-elected--over and over again. Very few of them, one either side, care to rein in an administration-gone-wild, no matter who or when. The last time Congress showed their fangs was with Watergate.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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It is now time for the Congress to determine who will continue to run the government, the Executive or that branch and Congress. I just hope that they don't back down on this or they will be nearly completely irrelevant, like it or not.


“The Justice Department’s failure to respond appropriately to the allegations of whistleblowers and to cooperate with Congressional oversight has crossed the line of appropriate conduct for a government agency,” Issa adds.

“Congress now faces a moment of decision between exerting its full authority to compel an agency refusing to cooperate with congressional oversight or accepting a dangerous expansion of Executive Branch authority and unilateral action allowing agencies to set their own terms for cooperating with congressional oversight.”


How much of this is not true and what we are faced with from Fast and Furious?

House Drafts Contempt Citation Against Holder Over Fast and Furious
I hold you in contempt of C-D for lying in your thread title. Nothing has been filed so how is he "charged"?
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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AG-Holder has not yet been charged with contempt. The citation has been drawn up, that is all. This is the first formal step, nothing more. Unfortunatly, I doubt Speaker Boehner has either the spine or the pair to follow through.
I agree. And while IMO Holder and the DOJ deserve all hell for the mess they created, this will portrayed by the MSM as strictly an election ploy by the GOP to make the Obama administration look bad. Which is a shame.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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I hold you in contempt of C-D for lying in your thread title. Nothing has been filed so how is he "charged"?
He has been "charged" in public with this behavior, a precursor to legal charges being filed. He has ignored a subpoena from congress to produce documents which is the basis for legal action.

Don't get so hung up on how you interpret words, look to the meaning.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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AG-Holder has not yet been charged with contempt. The citation has been drawn up, that is all. This is the first formal step, nothing more. Unfortunatly, I doubt Speaker Boehner has either the spine or the pair to follow through.


The Case for Holding AG Holder in Contempt for Fast & Furious - YouTube

Listen carefully at 2:33 about false statements and cover-up.

At 3:26 Chairman Issa leaves Holder and the Obama administration an out.....
Too much "go along to get long" in the Speaker. He is faced with an opposition that is gutting our country, and he want's to worry about decorum. Slap Holder in Irons.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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In early Feb, Eric Holder said that he was waiting for the results of the investigation, and that results would come in about 6 months, i.e. the beginning of August.
'Fast and Furious' consequences coming, Holder says - CNN

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Regarding people found culpable in that inquiry, he said, "I can assure you those people will be removed from federal service."
So far we don't know who authorized the program, nor have any heads rolled over it. We still don't even have a reasonable explanation of why the program was done. Holder's self-imposed deadline just happens to fall about 3 months before the Nov. 6 election and hopefully he'll get lots of pressure to meet that deadline.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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Roysoldboy you yourself have been charged with contempt for creating misleading thread titles.

I have a draft right here on my desk.
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