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Old 04-27-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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The media doesn't have to be held accountable. GZ has to be held accountable, if he would have just let travon go and not stopped him, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That is fact.
please demonstrate that GZ stopped TM and didn't let him go. that is hardly 'fact.'

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At what point are we going to hold the media accountable for their part in these Trayvon retaliation attacks? How many innocent people have been beaten, some within an inch of their lives, due to anger stirred up by the media's portrayal of the Trayvon case (even before the facts were in)?

They latched onto this case and have stoked the fires of racial tension to the point where they've inspired several hate crimes. Do they have any responsibility for these attacks due to the biased and one-sided nature of how they covered this story? Should their methods and motives be questioned when their coverage of this story has led to even more violence?
this article has an excellent summary of how badly the media screwed this up at every level.

Motivated By Media Lies About George Zimmerman, a Hate Crime Occurs In Chicago
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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please demonstrate that GZ stopped TM and didn't let him go. that is hardly 'fact.'



this article has an excellent summary of how badly the media screwed this up at every level.

Motivated By Media Lies About George Zimmerman, a Hate Crime Occurs In Chicago
1. to your first point, zimmerman stopped travon and questioned him. Fact. If he didn't stop him at all, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

2. Quit blaming the media, this was going to be about race no matter what. Until racism is eliminated, race will always be injected to stories.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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1. to your first point, zimmerman stopped travon and questioned him. Fact. If he didn't stop him at all, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
And you base that on what? Certainly not evidence. Or witnesses. Did you have an out-of-body experience where you were there when the actual contact started between the two of them?
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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And you base that on what? Certainly not evidence. Or witnesses. Did you have an out-of-body experience where you were there when the actual contact started between the two of them?
So now you believe trayvon just decided to go up zimmerman and start fighting him for no reason. I can already see how this arguement is going to end.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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1. to your first point, zimmerman stopped travon and questioned him. Fact. If he didn't stop him at all, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
prove that trayvon was 'stopped.' i haven't heard anyone claim this before.
questioning someone is not stopping them.

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2. Quit blaming the media, this was going to be about race no matter what. Until racism is eliminated, race will always be injected to stories.
of course it was. however, the media exacerbated it to the maximum extent possible. their determination to portray zimmerman as a 'racist,' no matter what, could hardly have been more blatant.
  • the desperation to refer to zimmerman as white, even to the point of inventing a new term for him: white hispanic
  • using old pictures of trayvon to portray him as a cuddly 12-year-old, juxtaposed with those of zimmerman's mugshot.
  • ABC news showing a blurry video and crowing that 'Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman." enhancement shows this to be embarassingly incorrect.
  • CNN claiming the 911 audio had zimmerman saying 'effing c.oon'
    this was again shown to be a blatant lie.
  • NBC altering the 911 call in an effort to promote zimmerman as a 'racist' for saying the guy he suspected was black, when he was actually answering a direct question.

no doubt there are plenty more.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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prove that trayvon was 'stopped.' i haven't heard anyone claim this before.
questioning someone is not stopping them.



of course it was. however, the media exacerbated it to the maximum extent possible. their determination to portray zimmerman as a 'racist,' no matter what, could hardly have been more blatant.

  • the desperation to refer to zimmerman as white, even to the point of inventing a new term for him: white hispanic
  • using old pictures of trayvon to portray him as a cuddly 12-year-old, juxtaposed with those of zimmerman's mugshot.
  • ABC news showing a blurry video and crowing that 'Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman." enhancement shows this to be embarassingly incorrect.
  • CNN claiming the 911 audio had zimmerman saying 'effing c.oon'
    this was again shown to be a blatant lie.
  • NBC altering the 911 call in an effort to promote zimmerman as a 'racist' for saying the guy he suspected was black, when he was actually answering a direct question.
no doubt there are plenty more.
Ok fine, i'll play your game. If zimmerman didn't question trayvon we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:50 AM
 
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Ok fine, i'll play your game. If zimmerman didn't question trayvon we wouldn't be having this discussion.
okay. and if trayvon had walked on by and ignored zimmerman, we also wouldn't be having this discussion.

back on topic, another 'trayvon piñata' incident.

‘Trayvon' shouted as group attacks Good Samaritan
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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Yeah, this guy looks like a real angel, pillar of the community.....



Him and his bro were just looking for some drug money beat the guy because of the martin case, uh-huh OK....

Bet this guy can't even read....
Not defending him at all, but it looks like a young black person, nothing really out of the ordinary. What about the way he looks makes him instantly stand out?
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