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Old 02-20-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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At least this isn't an anti-vaccine thread. Those really bring out the crazies.
Please don't give him any ideas
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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Default Another Anti-Choice Anti-Woman Catholic Church Article

Really, take these to the religious forum.

It's another biased article that can be debunked by people who don't have an agenda.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There's a laundry list of risks associated with taking the pill and it's given to you with your prescription.

One snippet from the Mayo Clinic (which I hope most consider a valid source):

Birth control pill FAQ: Benefits, risks and choices - MayoClinic.com
How do birth control pills affect your risk of cancer?

Scientific evidence suggests using birth control pills for longer periods of time increases your risk of some cancers, such as cervical cancer and liver cancer, but it also decreases your risk of other types of cancer, including ovarian cancer and endometrial cancer.
The effect of birth control pills on breast cancer risk isn't quite clear. However, some studies do show a link between pill use and breast cancer. Key factors seem to be how many years you take the pill and how recently you last used the pill. In one study, use of birth control pills led to a higher risk of premenopausal breast cancer in women who took the pill for four or more years before having a baby. Other evidence suggests that 10 or more years after you stop taking the pill, your breast cancer risk returns to the same level as if you had never taken birth control pills.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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There's a laundry list of risks associated with taking the pill and it's given to you with your prescription.

One snippet from the Mayo Clinic (which I hope most consider a valid source):

Birth control pill FAQ: Benefits, risks and choices - MayoClinic.com
How do birth control pills affect your risk of cancer?

Scientific evidence suggests using birth control pills for longer periods of time increases your risk of some cancers, such as cervical cancer and liver cancer, but it also decreases your risk of other types of cancer, including ovarian cancer and endometrial cancer.
The effect of birth control pills on breast cancer risk isn't quite clear. However, some studies do show a link between pill use and breast cancer. Key factors seem to be how many years you take the pill and how recently you last used the pill. In one study, use of birth control pills led to a higher risk of premenopausal breast cancer in women who took the pill for four or more years before having a baby. Other evidence suggests that 10 or more years after you stop taking the pill, your breast cancer risk returns to the same level as if you had never taken birth control pills.
Yep, that sounds good to me.

As I wrote earlier, every drug you prescribed has some pretty scary sounding side effects. It's between the patient and doctor to decide if that risk is worth the benefits you will receive.

Of course, there are conflicting studies, as always, about breast cancer risks:
Oral Contraceptives and Cancer Risk: Q & A - National Cancer Institute
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  1. How do oral contraceptives affect breast cancer risk?
    A woman’s risk of developing breast cancer depends on several factors, some of which are related to her natural hormones. Hormonal factors that increase the risk of breast cancer include conditions that may allow high levels of hormones to persist for long periods of time, such as beginning menstruation at an early age (before age 12), experiencing menopause at a late age (after age 55), having a first child after age 30, and not having children at all.
    A 1996 analysis of worldwide epidemiologic data conducted by the Collaborative Group on Hormonal Factors in Breast Cancer found that women who were current or recent users of birth control pills had a slightly elevated risk of developing breast cancer. The risk was highest for women who started using OCs as teenagers. However, 10 or more years after women stopped using OCs, their risk of developing breast cancer returned to the same level as if they had never used birth control pills, regardless of family history of breast cancer, reproductive history, geographic area of residence, ethnic background, differences in study design, dose and type of hormone, or duration of use. In addition, breast cancers diagnosed in women after 10 or more years of not using OCs were less advanced than breast cancers diagnosed in women who had never used OCs. To conduct this analysis, the researchers examined the results of 54 studies. The analysis involved 53,297 women with breast cancer and 100,239 women without breast cancer. More than 200 researchers participated in this combined analysis of their original studies, which represented about 90 percent of the epidemiological studies throughout the world that had investigated the possible relationship between OCs and breast cancer (2).
    The findings of the Women’s Contraceptive and Reproductive Experiences (Women’s CARE) study were in contrast to those described above. The Women’s CARE study examined the use of OCs as a risk factor for breast cancer in women ages 35 to 64. Researchers interviewed 4,575 women who were diagnosed with breast cancer between 1994 and 1998, and 4,682 women who did not have breast cancer. Investigators collected detailed information about the participants’ use of OCs, reproductive history, health, and family history. The results, which were published in 2002, indicated that current or former use of OCs did not significantly increase the risk of breast cancer. The findings were similar for white and black women. Factors such as longer periods of use, higher doses of estrogen, initiation of OC use before age 20, and OC use by women with a family history of breast cancer were not associated with an increased risk of the disease (3).
    In a National Cancer Institute (NCI)-sponsored study published in 2003, researchers examined risk factors for breast cancer among women ages 20 to 34 compared with women ages 35 to 54. Women diagnosed with breast cancer were asked whether they had used OCs for more than 6 months before diagnosis and, if so, whether the most recent use had been within 5 years, 5 to 10 years, or more than 10 years. The results indicated that the risk was highest for women who used OCs within 5 years prior to diagnosis, particularly in the younger group (4).
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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There's a laundry list of risks associated with taking the pill and it's given to you with your prescription.

One snippet from the Mayo Clinic (which I hope most consider a valid source):

Birth control pill FAQ: Benefits, risks and choices - MayoClinic.com
How do birth control pills affect your risk of cancer?

Scientific evidence suggests using birth control pills for longer periods of time increases your risk of some cancers, such as cervical cancer and liver cancer, but it also decreases your risk of other types of cancer, including ovarian cancer and endometrial cancer.
Never really denied this, was pretty much just asking the percentage of women who experience this vs the percentage of women taking the pill.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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No it quote mines which is different from citing. Citing actually tells you the study or article it's referring to. Quote mining takes an out of context quote in which to try to prove a point with it.
The catholics are both dishonest and protect pedophiles?
Say it ain't so!
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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International Agency for Research on Cancer
World Health Organization
IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans
Volume 91 (2007)
Combined Estrogen-Progestogen Contraceptives and Combined Estrogen-Progestogen Menopausal Therapy


Summary of Data Reported and Evaluation:
Overall evaluation
Combined oral estrogen-progestogen contraceptives are carcinogenic to humans (Group 1). There is also convincing evidence in humans that these agents confer a protective effect against cancer of the endometrium and ovary.




(There is a newer Monograph (2011) but I can't find a link)
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Never really denied this, was pretty much just asking the percentage of women who experience this vs the percentage of women taking the pill.
I just did a google on this:

"Percentage of women diagnosed with cancer who took the pill"

And the articles/studies/percentage are all over the map from "prevents" to "causes" and percentages from 50% up to 90%.

Which means no one really knows at this point in time. Still a laboratory experiment with women being the guinea pigs under study.
Maybe the CDC does but if they do they ain't talking
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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I realize that the source in biased against contraceptives but we ALL need to be fully aware of what type of chemicals/hormones we are placing into our bodies and the inherited risks. OP (or anyone else): Do you have another research article that is less biased discussing the risks of contraceptives?
You seem to be doing a lot of supporting the OP in recent threads saying that his information may be faulty but that women should look at both sides of an issue. As if we don't.

Then you ask for US to do your research and come up with something.

That's not how an internet debate works.
You make the positive assertion, you provide credible links to back up that assertion.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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Which means no one really knows at this point in time.
Which is exactly what I was expecting, to be honest.

The point is, there is risks. Nobody's trying to hide the risks. If the women want to take the risk, then that's their prerogative.

What we -could- do is make sterilization easier to acquire. As, there are many doctors who refuse to do voluntary sterilization on women (like, permanent, not just "tying the tubes") because of fear of lawsuits further on, or pretty much "You're just gonna change your mind and regret this anyways so I'm not gonna do it on you"
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