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Old 01-07-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Couldn't that hypothetically be an outcome of teaching American history of slavery and the history of post-emancipation discrimination? So should history not be taught lest black people hate whites and whites feel guilty?

Reminds me of a Fawlty Towers episode, only "just don't mention the war (WWII to visiting Germans) is replaced with "don't mention slavery and oppression".

I think using math problems to illustrate this history is odd, though.
I am white, and do not feel guilty about my ancestors past. it is in the past, just dont forget it in order to not repeat it.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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How about perpetuation of animosity between the races? This was presented totally out of context.
So we shouldn't mention Slavery or Jim Crow in Social Studies? Because the same thing could happen there, by your logic.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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What would you be firing them for?
For stupidity and inappropriateness. How anyone could think that would be a good math exercise is beyond me and simply does not belong in the field of education.

They have demonstrated that they are not qualified to teach. However, this is Atlanta - the city where educators have a penchant for inappropriate behavior.
Atlanta Cheating: 178 Teachers and Administrators Changed Answers to Increase Test Scores - ABC News
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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I am white, and do not feel guilty about my ancestors past. it is in the past, just dont forget it in order to not repeat it.
Well good, that's also the case with me, and I also don't worry that children learning our history will make me a target for retribution.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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Couldn't that hypothetically be an outcome of teaching American history of slavery and the history of post-emancipation discrimination? So should history not be taught lest black people hate whites and whites feel guilty?

Reminds me of a Fawlty Towers episode, only "just don't mention the war (WWII to visiting Germans) is replaced with "don't mention slavery and oppression".

I think using math problems to illustrate this history is odd, though.



That's the point. There was no context.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:09 PM
 
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these white parents are whitewashing history. they dont want there kids to know what happened, thats why they get so angry about black history month.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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So we shouldn't mention Slavery or Jim Crow in Social Studies? Because the same thing could happen there, by your logic.
Context?
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Appears that the school was trying too hard to be clever.

[what they did is not malicious - just stupid]
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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these white parents are whitewashing history. they dont want there kids to know what happened, thats why they get so angry about black history month.
Is there a reason why teachers of math should throw in a question like that? Surely there are all kinds of examples that would have worked and have worked for all these years and all of a sudden they have to throw in questions like that. Of course, that question could lead a number of kids to go home and ask mommy and daddy what slavery is all about. Let them learn about that a bit later in life. Kids of that age really aren't racist so why try to push them into it?
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Is there a reason why teachers of math should throw in a question like that? Surely there are all kinds of examples that would have worked and have worked for all these years and all of a sudden they have to throw in questions like that. Of course, that question could lead a number of kids to go home and ask mommy and daddy what slavery is all about. Let them learn about that a bit later in life. Kids of that age really aren't racist so why try to push them into it?
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School district spokeswoman Sloan Roach told the station teachers were trying to do a cross-curricular activity, combining math problems with social studies lessons. While the district encourages such pairings, the problem with the math homework was that it gave no historical context to its questions.
Not necessarily a bad idea but the idea was poorly executed.
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