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Old 01-06-2012, 03:09 PM
 
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I work for a bunch of doctors, and none of them play golf. Most of them are working more than 60 hours a week, and they also take call. I have seen their reimbursements drop quite a bit since the late 90's. One thing is for sure, I will not encourage my kids to got to medical school.
I am related to some and also work in the Healthcare IT field so I deal with quite a few too and they are doing fine. The ones I know work less than 40 hours per week.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Yet they are still on the golf course, the resorts and the luxury car dealerships. If they're going broke, I think I'd like to be broke too.
"Factsplease".
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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The average doctor in this country makes over $300,000 per year. If a 25% drop in what Medicare is giving them is what's causing them to go broke, they should re-evaluate their business model.
Doctors have BIG expenses. Where did you get that figure from?
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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"Factsplease".

And your point is what. What I stated is a fact. I guess it isn't doom and gloom or anti-Obama you don't want to hear it. It doesn't make it a lie though.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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Wait, wait...wait. Can I believe what I am reading???

Doctors are going broke because the government subsidies, and that's what medicaid and medicare payments are, are becoming less and less??? In other words the free market doesn't support the number of doctors in the market and it is the government's job to infuse the medical economy with taxpayer money to keep these practitioners in business? Tell me this isn't the underlying reality of the arguments that I am reading???

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Old 01-06-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Yet the same people complaining are the ones that want to end all social programs.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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What is an "average doctor"? A general practitioner, an oncologist, an internal medicine doctor, a dermatologist, a podiatrist, and orthopedic surgeon, eye-ear-nose-throats, etc.,...etc....? Some may make $300,000 a year, but I doubt seriously that the average income of ALL doctors even get close to that amount. Please provide supporting your $300,000 figure.
That average $300,000 a year is a crock. A nephrologist I know was offered $98000 a year to work full time in Florida.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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Wait, wait...wait. Can I believe what I am reading???

Doctors are going broke because the government subsidies, and that's what medicaid and medicare payments are, are becoming less and less??? In other words the free market doesn't support the number of doctors in the market and it is the government's job to infuse the medical economy with taxpayer money to keep these practitioners in business? Tell me this isn't the underlying reality of the arguments that I am reading???
I'd also like to add that nobody forces doctors to buy a 800k house, buy top of the line cars, shop at Whole Foods only and so on and so forth.

Funny how in this country when poor people try to "live it up" and live beyond their means, everyone criticizes them. When it's the wealthy, we are supposed to feel sorry? Really?

And as far as I'm concerned, any doctor that didn't see health care reform coming was living in an alternate reality.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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That average $300,000 a year is a crock. A nephrologist I know was offered $98000 a year to work full time in Florida.
Aww poor him. I have a relative who is a gastroenterologist who makes approximately a million/year. There is obviously a range. I believe that's why the word average was used. I still find it interesting that doctors are supposedly making less because of cuts to government programs. Isn't this what Republicans want?
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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That average $300,000 a year is a crock. A nephrologist I know was offered $98000 a year to work full time in Florida.
Whether doctors average $300,000 or $30,000, the issue on this thread is; is government driving down the income of physicians or is the government actually subsidizing their practices because the market doesn't support the price that believe they deserve?

There is no law that requires a physician, outside of an emergency room, to treat a patient, accept medicare/medicaid or even private insurance.

So what is it going to be, government subsidized healthcare at a price the government chooses to pay or a purely market based pricing system?
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