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Old 12-06-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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This was a short three hour flight. How do we know if the owner didn't take it to a vet before the flight? Would a vet risk his license by putting in false information into a health certificate? How do we know that the owner wasn't taking it home to be taken care by their personal vet. Since the dog was shipped back to its owner within a few days, then the injuries couldnt have been that bad. For all we know the dog got caught in a Briar patch. Too much one sided information. A hunting dogs condition cannot be compared to one kept as a pet.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Dogs have morals?? Tell that to the birds that show up dead in my back yard. LOL. Only loyalty a dog shows is when its dinner time. You feed em and clean up their poop they're happy. If somebody else fed em they'd move there in a heartbeat.

Dogs behave based on instinct

Only humans plot and scheme to how they can lie, cheat, steal from or use others

So I would give dogs a huge edge over people
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Dogs exhibit more morals, loyalty than some people do.


And far more morals than that hateful poster you quoted
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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This was a short three hour flight. How do we know if the owner didn't take it to a vet before the flight? Would a vet risk his license by putting in false information into a health certificate? How do we know that the owner wasn't taking it home to be taken care by their personal vet. Since the dog was shipped back to its owner within a few days, then the injuries couldnt have been that bad. For all we know the dog got caught in a Briar patch. Too much one sided information. A hunting dogs condition cannot be compared to one kept as a pet.
Umm, that's not what I read from the article.

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Airport police phoned the animal welfare agency, which took custody of the dog.

The dog, apparently owned by a hunter who has it shipped to places he hunts, was shipped back to Texas after being nursed back to health <snip>

Now, a month after the incident at Reno-Tahoe International Airport, the dog has recovered.


We aren't talking about an inanimate object or piece of luggage. We're talking about a living creature. I know that some of you place very little value on life that isn't human, but this employee did the right thing in the best interest of the dog. The animal welfare agency would not have taken the dog into custody, nor had to nurse it back to health for an entire month if it were in such great health. They would have had no justifiable grounds to take custody of the dog if it weren't in need of immediate care.

To use the excuse that this was a hunting dog and not a pet is NOT an excuse. That does not give the owner license to abuse the animal, starve it, or deprive it of necessary medical treatment. There are minimal standards of care that apply to any owned dog, be it a hunting dog or pet.
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Just wanted to add (and I am speculating here) that if the owner of the dog felt that his dog was wrongfully taken custody of by animal welfare officials, he would likely be suing the airlines. I think that part of the reason that he didn't sue is that he knows he could have very easily been arrested on animal cruelty charges. Maybe both parties agreed that no charges would be filed by either party.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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An update...

Baggage Handler Fired Over Dog Is Offered Job Back | Fox News
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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Dogs behave based on instinct

Only humans plot and scheme to how they can lie, cheat, steal from or use others

So I would give dogs a huge edge over people
I guess you should tell my lab that. She always finds a way to steal the dog bone from my other one when I give em both one or horn in on her food if I don't keep an eye on em when I feed em. As for lying I guess unless you speak dog you'll never know now will you?
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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I know that hunting dogs aren't pampered like pet dogs, but I've been truly disgusted by some of the treatment of hunting dogs. Animal abuse is abuse and neglect is neglect. The fact that this dog was used for hunting doesn't get the owner off the hook IF this dog was in as bad shape as this woman claims.

And as for the whole maudlin " I wish people cared for their fellow man like this..." Seriously? So you're saying if a person was half dead at the airport this woman would have stepped over him? In my experience, compassionate people are compassionate people. The animal lovers I know including myself are usually the first to help another person.

Last time I checked, we can't ship people in crates so I don't see how this even applies. But believe me, if people could ship their kids in crates across country and save money on airfare, they would !

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Old 12-06-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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A better solution would be to do her job and then notify the authorities.

She was hired to load baggage, not to inspect baggage. If she thinks she should get to choose what baggage to load, she should get another job.
So you'd be okay if she loaded a bag full of weapons, rotten food, drugs, etc, just because she was told it had cleared? Sometimes it's good to use common sense, even if it's at the risk of a lousy job. Ya know?
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:55 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Last time I checked, we can't ship people in crates so I don't see how this even applies. But believe me, if people could ship their kids in crates across country and same money on airfare, they would !
Have you seen that commercial (forget what product it's for) where the parent tries to do that?

And you're right, it's unfair to assume people don't care for humans too, simply because they care for animals. Are we only allowed to care about one or the other? I must have missed that memo.
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