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Old 10-07-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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When will the Left understand that what they consider good campaign strategy, appropriate rhetoric and social "justice" is a turn-off to a majority of Americans?
When will people steeped in politics realize that all politicians are guilty of this?

Also, an observation:

What was Bush's rating before he got re-elected?
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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When will people steeped in politics realize that all politicians are guilty of this?

Also, an observation:

What was Bush's rating before he got re-elected?


Good point Bush was 55% approval rating at the same point in his Presidency. Obama is toast.

Presidential Approval Ratings -- George W. Bush

2003 Oct 6-8
[CENTER]55
42
3[/CENTER]
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Take away that he walked in to the Great Depression and the economic mess that was handed to him by his predecessors and his record is fine. You might not like his healthcare reform, but a half dozen Presidents tried to past that including Reagan and failed.

Most of your whining is basically that he inherited the country and it was a mess when he got it.

Time to put away the emotion, think instead and act like an adult.
Obama is following FDR's recipe to create a Great Depression, right down to the war on employers, atttacks on capital, excessive regulation, trade war rhetoric against our trading partners, and raising the cost of labor. All these things hurt employment.

Obama is on track to set new record lows for approval and highs for disaproval, as he uses the same strategy that Walter Mondale embraced en route to his stunning landslide loss.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Good point Bush was 55% approval rating at the same point in his Presidency. Obama is toast.

Presidential Approval Ratings -- George W. Bush

2003 Oct 6-8
[CENTER]55
42
3[/CENTER]
Thank you. HOnestly didn't know.

However, I also am of the opinion that despite Obama's dismal rating, that he does deserve, unless Republicans actually put up someone who isn't insane or stupid, they're going to lose the election.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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When will people steeped in politics realize that all politicians are guilty of this?

Also, an observation:

What was Bush's rating before he got re-elected?
51%..at the same point in time. Average monthly approval.

Obama's September Approval Rating Remains at Term-Low 41%

As I recall, it was around 50% right before the election.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Thank you. HOnestly didn't know.

However, I also am of the opinion that despite Obama's dismal rating, that he does deserve, unless Republicans actually put up someone who isn't insane or stupid, they're going to lose the election.

That's really what you want to believe. The reality is, the Republicans could put up a cocker spaniel, and the cocker would win. Obama's numbers are unbelievably bad. The economy is unbelievably bad, the wars are a disaster. There is very little positive Obama can point to. It simply isn't a viable campaign to say, Yeah I know I stink, but the other guys really stinks. Obama is toast.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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That's really what you want to believe. The reality is, the Republicans could put up a cocker spaniel, and the cocker would win. Obama's numbers are unbelievably bad. The economy is unbelievably bad, the wars are a disaster. There is very little positive Obama can point to. It simply isn't a viable campaign to say, Yeah I know I stink, but the other guys really stinks. Obama is toast.
Actually, all Obama has to do is point out the incompetence of the other candidates, which there is much to point out on most of the front-runners.

The only candidate I can see beating Obama is Ron Paul, but he's unelectable due to the fact that he goes against the mainstream. He's the Denis Kuchinich of the right. Good for the country, bad for the camera/party.

Which, sadly enough, is what this boils down to. What is best for this country cannot be elected. Only what looks pretty and spins a good tale.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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That's really what you want to believe. The reality is, the Republicans could put up a cocker spaniel, and the cocker would win. Obama's numbers are unbelievably bad. The economy is unbelievably bad, the wars are a disaster. There is very little positive Obama can point to. It simply isn't a viable campaign to say, Yeah I know I stink, but the other guys really stinks. Obama is toast.
Don't forget... the Healthcare Reform was and will always be on the WORST legislation ever written... I cannot forgive Obama over that... I hope he is gone next year...
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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That's really what you want to believe. The reality is, the Republicans could put up a cocker spaniel, and the cocker would win. Obama's numbers are unbelievably bad. The economy is unbelievably bad, the wars are a disaster. There is very little positive Obama can point to. It simply isn't a viable campaign to say, Yeah I know I stink, but the other guys really stinks. Obama is toast.
What the poster should be looking at are the STATE polls - virtually every swing state obama won in 2008, he is underwater. Add to that traditional blue states like PA, WI and he's in real trouble.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Don't forget... the Healthcare Reform was and will always be on the WORST legislation ever written... I cannot forgive Obama over that... I hope he is gone next year...
I'm not sure about "worst legislation ever written", but it's up there.

Promise UHC, deliver something that panders to the insurance companies more.

Instead of helping the problem, he made it worse.
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