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Old 02-26-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Houston
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So are all those innocent Jewish children killed by hitler doomed for eternal torment?
Yep, no one ever said God was fair.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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Yep, no one ever said God was fair.
The Christian God is a hateful God.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:58 PM
 
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OP is a little misleading.

The judge is giving the offender the choice of going to a place of worship one a week for a year in lieu of jail time. You are not forced. You can also go to any place of worship you want. It can be a temple, synagogue, or mosque.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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OP is a little misleading.

The judge is giving the offender the choice of going to a place of worship one a week for a year in lieu of jail time. You are not forced. You can also go to any place of worship you want. It can be a temple, synagogue, or mosque.
If the options are :
1) Jail
2) Fine
3) Religion Center

What of the atheist? Does he just not get a choice number 3? Why should the atheist be treated differently than a religious person?

Also, if you read the article, you'd see they're required to check in weekly - kind of a parole officer type thing - and the only religious centers within the jurisdiction are Christian churches (so effectively #3 is limited to Jesus).
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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OP is a little misleading.

The judge is giving the offender the choice of going to a place of worship one a week for a year in lieu of jail time. You are not forced. You can also go to any place of worship you want. It can be a temple, synagogue, or mosque.
Still, I find this unacceptable. If they are allowed to do what is equivalent to work release on what would account to a charitable organization, or community service, then why not allow them to volunteer at a goodwill, or some other charitable organization that could use the manual labor?
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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OP is a little misleading.

The judge is giving the offender the choice of going to a place of worship one a week for a year in lieu of jail time. You are not forced. You can also go to any place of worship you want. It can be a temple, synagogue, or mosque.
So what about atheist and agnostics?. If the judge were Muslim there would cries about Sharia, but I guess it's OK if a Christian judge forces you to worship.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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If you were atheist/agnostic, then just pick a church and volunteer your time there. Maybe they need some assistance in cooking some meals for the homeless or some cleaning? You don't have to take part in any of the religious services.

I'm atheist and I think some of you just love to find controversy where there is none.

City budgets all across the country are stretched to the limit and I think this is a good harmless way to deal with non-violent offenders and help cities save some money. Other cities should adopt similar programs.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If you were atheist/agnostic, then just pick a church and volunteer your time there. Maybe they need some assistance in cooking some meals for the homeless or some cleaning? You don't have to take part in any of the religious services.

I'm atheist and I think some of you guys just love to find controversy where there is none.

City budgets all across the country are stretched to the limit and I think this is a good harmless way to deal with non-violent offenders and help cities save some money.
I would agree with what the city is doing, if they allowed you to volunteer your time at other charities, not just churches. There are local facilities, like the red cross, water front rescue mission, and goodwill that may be tied to churches, but aren't churches. Why not allow people to volunteer there?
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:20 PM
 
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I would agree with what the city is doing, if they allowed you to volunteer your time at other charities, not just churches. There are local facilities, like the red cross, water front rescue mission, and goodwill that may be tied to churches, but aren't churches. Why not allow people to volunteer there?
Sure, why not. I have no problem with that either. You should let the judge know (respectfully) that he should allow those who were not religious to volunteer there time at other charities.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Sure, why not. I have no problem with that either. You should let the judge know (respectfully) that he should allow those who were not religious to volunteer there time at other charities.
As I've been told, this was discussed, and because of the "community" atmosphere of the church, it was decided against it.

BTW, there are no Mosques in Bay Minette AL, and no synagogues that I know of, just Christian churches
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