Barack Obama: A Conservative President (enemy, speech, politicians, compare)

[northstar22]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Yeah, the right get's to pick which guy the democrats run for president.

Indirectly, yes. The Democrats nominated someone who had a realistic chance of beating the Republican candidate for president. In this political climate, a progressive would probably have lost the election.

It works that way on the Republican side, too. There's a reason Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee, or Tom Tancredo didn't win the Republican nomination -- they are too extreme right.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by LetsRock

Obama is a marxist. Just because he is unable to act that way does not make him a conservative. We have him in a box and will keep him there until the trash can be emptied in 2012.

Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal

Obama fails to respect the US Constitution. He bypasses the US Congress with regulation when he knows he cannot move his Socialist agenda through legislation. He has usurped power, started an illegal war in Libya, set up the structure for statist health care control over the people.

Obama is not Conservative no matter how much you try to perpetuate the myth.

Originally Posted by Kirdik

Oh, yes, he is. Unfortunately for him the Constitution gets in the way so he can't be like Hugo Chavez. FDR had a similar problem during his presidency.

LOLZ. When the facts don't match y'alls reality the next thing to do is say"...but...but... if Obama had his way we would be all be potatoes farmers making up the preliterate of Mother America."

It's pretty pathetic really. The right has completely altered the terms socialist and marxists in order to tear down the left and gain more power. It's all politics, nothing more. Luckily not all Americans are as ignorant and that suggestible to realize Obama isn't a socialist nor marxist.

[Kirdik]

Originally Posted by dv1033

LOLZ. When the facts don't match y'alls reality the next thing to do is say"...but...but... if Obama had his way we would be all be potatoes farmers making up the preliterate of Mother America."

It's pretty pathetic really. The right has completely altered the terms socialist and marxists in order to tear down the left and gain more power. It's all politics, nothing more. Luckily not all Americans are as ignorant and that suggestible to realize Obama isn't a socialist nor marxist.

Obama: “I do think at a certain point you've made enough money"

Obama" "when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody."

Obama: "Rich should pay fair share"

Sounds like a conservative, doesn't he?

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by Kirdik

Obama: “I do think at a certain point you've made enough money"

Obama" "when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody."

Obama: "Rich should pay fair share"

Sounds like a conservative, doesn't he?

Where did I say in my post the he was a conservative? I will clarify, so people don't people words in my mouth: Obama is more conservative than what the Right generally believes or propagates.

[Kirdik]

Originally Posted by dv1033

Where did I say in my post the he was a conservative? I will clarify, so people don't people words in my mouth: Obama is more conservative than what the Right generally believes or propagates.

My question was in reference to the title of this thread.

With his constant class warfare he sounds like a true Marxist.

[northstar22]

Here's how I would rank the presidents of the last 70 years, from most conservative to most liberal:

1) George W. Bush
2) Barack Obama
3) George Bush
4) Gerald Ford
5) Ronald Reagan
6) Bill Clinton
7) Richard Nixon
8) Dwight Eisenhower
9) Harry Truman
10) John F. Kennedy
11) Lyndon B. Johnson
12) Franklin D. Roosevelt

Maybe you could swap Obama and Bush I, but regardless, Obama is still one of the more conservative recent presidents.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by SourD

You must be a really far out Lefty if this guy is too Conservative for you. BTW, Obama was brought up as a Marxist. He identifies as that, errr, I mean Progressive.

This is from Bruce Bartlett, the guy who worked for Reagan:

By the time Dwight Eisenhower took office, people craved stability and he was determined to give it to them. This angered his fellow Republicans, who wanted nothing more than to repeal Roosevelt’s New Deal, root and branch. And with control of both the House and Senate in 1953 and 1954, he could have undone a lot of it if he wanted to.

But Eisenhower not only refused to repeal the New Deal, he wouldn’t even let Republicans in Congress cut taxes even though the high World War II and Korean War rates were in effect. He thought a balanced budget should take priority. Eisenhower also helped to destroy right wing hero Joe McCarthy and worked closely with liberals on civil rights.

Eisenhower’s effective liberalism was deeply frustrating to conservatives. Robert Welch of the John Birch Society even accused him of being a communist. But after Republicans lost control of Congress in 1954, he was the only game in town for them.

By 1964, conservatives got control of the GOP’s nominating process and put forward one of their own, Barry Goldwater, to complete the unfinished work of repealing the New Deal that Eisenhower refused to do. But he lost in a landslide to Lyndon Johnson, who quickly capitalized on his victory by doubling down on the New Deal with the Great Society.
...
Here are a few examples of Obama's effective conservatism:

• His stimulus bill was half the size that his advisers thought necessary;
• He continued Bush’s war and national security policies without change and even retained Bush’s defense secretary;
• He put forward a health plan almost identical to those that had been supported by Republicans such as Mitt Romney in the recent past, pointedly rejecting the single-payer option favored by liberals;
• He caved to conservative demands that the Bush tax cuts be extended without getting any quid pro quo whatsoever;
• And in the past few weeks he has supported deficit reductions that go far beyond those offered by Republicans.

For all you people who think that Obama is a Marxist, you're just living in a delusion.

[Kirdik]

Originally Posted by northstar22

Here's how I would rank the presidents of the last 70 years, from most conservative to most liberal:

1) George W. Bush
2) Barack Obama
3) George Bush
4) Gerald Ford
5) Ronald Reagan
6) Bill Clinton
7) Richard Nixon
8) Dwight Eisenhower
9) Harry Truman
10) John F. Kennedy
11) Lyndon B. Johnson
12) Franklin D. Roosevelt

Maybe you could swap Obama and Bush I, but regardless, Obama is still one of the more conservative recent presidents.

That only means that you have a quite distorted perception of what conservatism is.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by Kirdik

That only means that you have a quite distorted perception of what conservatism is.

Obama is much more conservative than Eisenhower. Ike never would consider touching Social Security or even reducing the 90% top tax-rate.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by Kirdik

My question was in reference to the title of this thread.

Then why did you quote me?

With his constant class warfare he sounds like a true Marxist.

You couldn't tell Marxists if he was break dancing butt naked in front of you. Keep believing everything you hear.