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How do you buy grocery or furniture? Oh that's right, you depend on someone with a car.
How often do you buy furniture?
It's no problem to ask for help or rent a car or van for a day rather than being required to own a vehicle and all the costs that you'll incur.
How many groceries to you buy at a time?
Currently, I walk to the grocery, have a grocery bag with wheels and it's absolutely no problem.
I also love public transport.
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I disagree. Our current house (rural), on an acre of land, cost a fraction of the price of our townhouse in the city, with a postage stamp sized front yard. Taxes are lower and food is cheaper here (local farms and growers). Heating bills are lower, as we have our own wood lot, a fireplace, and a wood stove. There is also low crime - in the city where we lived, we had to constantly remove graffiti and repair smashed windshields.
Because this is true for you, you're saying that it's true across the board? For every city, state?
The governmnat has been soendig tons on urban renewal for deacdes and yet they get worse. Urban sprung up because of transportation needs of inductry and ower sources. Now that has changed urban a5reas are too expensive and so people move and inductry and business are following them. Its no different than the family farm society is not comig back basically.Urban american only can funsction because rural america supllies the resources.If private enterprise thought urban america was a good risk they would be investig in it and they are not.Urban amereican even consumes 80% of government dollars to fight poverty with 20% of poverty yet can sustain iyself.
They are.Cities aren't, because they're run by urban planners (except Houston), and planning isn't free market Suburbs = supply because demand from people wanting cheap housing
You really don't have any idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what suburbs are? They're either parts of CITIES or CITIES themselves.
I want to post this because many conservatives on here have the thought that urban living is more socialist than suburban living is.
Flaws in your argument.. Cities are built using financing like tax increment financing, and many office buildings, retail facilities are renovated at huge costs to the taxpayers, which include things like tax credits to the developers. In Pittsburgh, on a $100K home in the city, the city might subsidize $40K of the home cost at 0% interest rates..
The people I know who live in the burbs do so because they want to get away from the city and those that enjoy living there, they aren't looking for cheap housing. You couldn't pay me enough to live in the city of Houston, especially downtown... I live way outside the city for a lot of reasons, the biggest being the people who do live there.
I'm also not excited about paying for parking to go shopping, or even worse.. to park my car at night while I sleep..
I think that the argument can (and has) been made that residents have steadily moved further from city-centers as transportation options became available (ex. the subway in NYC). As automobiles became more available, people sought less-expensive land farther from the center of the city to build newer houses (lots of people prefer new houses).
The real exitus began in the 60s when race-riots (concentrated in urban areas) drove fearful residents to the suburbs. The US became extremely polarized in the mid 20th century. While MLK Jr. encouraged peaceful protests, other activists such as the black panthers and Malcom X took a much more revolutionary viewpoint and sometimes employed violence or threats of violence.
The recessions in the 70s really set in the urban decay that began with the exitus from the city, and neighborhoods began to crumble. At some point, buildings became too expensive to repair and the neighborhoods weren't desirable enough to warrant demolition. It was simply cheaper to build a new building in the suburbs, where a substantial population now lived.
For your average family, living in the city is too expensive. Housing costs are more expensive per square foot than in the burbs. Plus, the public schools in most major cities are terrible. Most people I know that live in major cities are retired, young with no kids, or very well off and send their kids to private schools. This idea that the suburbs are an exclusive bastion of greedy rich people is way off base. If anything, it's the opposite as cities get more gentrified.
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Thank you, Dave. Wish I could rep you again.
nonsense
Suburbs = supply because demand from people wanting cheap housing 
