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View Poll Results: Should the US Government keep ANYTHING confidential?
Yes 20 83.33%
No 4 16.67%
Other, explained below 0 0%
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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There is a first time for everything, but that wasn't the main purpose of my post just your misrepresentation of the law.




What a delightful, defensive, and ignorant thing to say.

When one "cuts and pastes" a relevant section of the law in question (I suppose I could have just typed it out) that clearly demonstrates that the law in question is rather broad in scope rather than narrow, as you insisted, it means just about everything.



Laughed out of court? That would lead one to surmise that the case was dismissed with prejudice by the trial judge, which didn't happen. The case against the AIPAC defendants was dropped by the prosecution because of pre-trial rulings regarding two tests required in the law, an intent of spy, and the intent to cause harm, both of which the Justice department felt was a burden of proof that they could not overcome at trial.

PS - Padcrasher, I always find it helpful to check my opinions against fact before posting, because it is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and removing all doubt. Perhaps you should do the same.

No I'm just tired of people thinking that they can post a clause up with some ominous language and think that can be applied willy nilly to whoever they wish.

You yourself have done this on other occasions with you legal theories..

All your authoritarian arguments should just start with the opening statement.

"Although no government legal hack in has ever been able to to do this before......

Or

Although the government has never been able to defend this action before in court I alone believe......[insert radical, off the wall, authortarian nonsense].
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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Just and wonderful run down of why you don't use the Espionage Act on the publishing of classified documents.

Using the words of actual experts in the law and actual cases where it was thought it could be used.

On the bottom portion of the article.

Fact-free accusations about WikiLeaks - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
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