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I hear on Talk Radio that many conservatives want to stay in Iraq with a full force of troops until we win the war. If this takes 5-10-20 years, so be it. We can not afford Iraq being taken over by a full scale civil war, or being taken over by Iran. So we need to stay and fight until we win.
Is there anyone who believes this and please give us your best arguments for staying until we win.
( Please do not reply if you are against the war in Iraq, there is another thread for this)
I wanted us to take out Saddam, then leave a few supervisory troops behind to assist in an orderly transition as the "new" regime took over, while the rest of us departed.
I DID NOT want, nor do I now want, for us to remain there for the next 16 generations until they "learn" to live in a democracy. That's absurd, and an impossible goal. Why we can't settle for some sort of benevolent dictatorship is beyond me.
I also admit that I closed my eyes to what I did not want to see. Knowing the Arabs have no history of any sort of successful democracy, I guess I should have expected the outcome. But wishful thinking on my part led me to note that Iraq was quite a sophistcated society by local standards. Its women held responsible positions, and its clerics were kept at bay. I let this fact delude me into thinking "surely such an educated secular Arab society will not willingly let itself slip backward into the stone age". For that mistake, I'm guilty. The veneer of civilization was just too fragile, I guess.
I think we should send the Bush Twins over there...that might make me feel just a tiny bit better about this farce of a war. Give them a little nose candy and I doubt they would mind.
How about an all-out campaign of MANDATORY COUNTRY MUSIC concerts, 24 hours per day, in every Iraqi city, town and crossroads,. SURELY this would "nudge" the distressed citizenry into coming together in some sort of agreement with one another? Any takers? Is Charlie Daniels free next month?
The only way we'll "win" anything is to completely kill all Sunnis or Shiites, and give the Kurds Northern Iraq. Which do we like better?
The country music idea is good. "Iraq-Aid", like Farm-Aid back in the 80's to help farmers. Maybe Iraqis can make peace braids or something? Bumper stickers: What Would Allah Do? Oh wait, What Would Mohammed Do?
I hear on Talk Radio that many conservatives want to stay in Iraq with a full force of troops until we win the war. If this takes 5-10-20 years, so be it. We can not afford Iraq being taken over by a full scale civil war, or being taken over by Iran. So we need to stay and fight until we win.
Is there anyone who believes this and please give us your best arguments for staying until we win.
( Please do not reply if you are against the war in Iraq, there is another thread for this)
I think the only way US troops (in the numbers that are there now) would be in Iraq that long from now is if we were at war with Iran and or Syria and used that as an excuse to have troops strategically placed.
I really don't think the troops will be pulling out in september. I think Bush will find away to withdrawal the troops (maybe leaving small contingent) on his timeline and I think it will be in 2008 just in time to take away a major democrat election weapon.
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In my eyes a victory would have to include there being a stable region for at least 6 years, preferably longer, after our withdrawal. I'd be in favor of staying a bit longer if victory included that requirement.
Given the history of the area and the lack of planning behind the invasion I just don't see that having a great probability, maybe 20% at best?
What troubles me is back in NOV when Bush finally admitted the need for a new plan he went on vacation instead of constantly working to develop and implement a new plan. I'd need to hear more commiment from the asministration, something more than sound-bites before I'd vote to stay.
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