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Old 09-26-2010, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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we live in a society that separates religion from the state, so if there are consequences, shouldn't it be for them and their maker?


If the consequences are that risky gay sex can contribute to HIV/AIDS, and that could impact others via blood donations, etc, should we mandate condom usage for gays, restricting blood and organ donations?

Other than that, I don't see a problem between anything between two consenting adults, be the man and a man, woman and a woman, or brother and sister.....

Do you honestly think there could be a mandatory condom usage law for gays to limit HIV? It would be no more effective than banning gay sex. How can you make sure nothing happens behind closed doors?

It's not going away. People are gay, will always be gay, there's nothing that can be done. While I think homosexuality is "abnormal" meaning most people are not homosexuals, there's nothing that can be done. There is no "treatment" for it, so that's the way they are.

So what is the entire deal with homosexuality on here? If you have a problem with it, don't have homosexual sex. The question is, should society require them to be safer about it?
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:25 PM
 
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we live in a society that separates religion from the state, so if there are consequences, shouldn't it be for them and their maker?


If the consequences are that risky gay sex can contribute to HIV/AIDS, and that could impact others via blood donations, etc, should we mandate condom usage for gays, restricting blood and organ donations?

Other than that, I don't see a problem between anything between two consenting adults, be the man and a man, woman and a woman, or brother and sister.....

Do you honestly think there could be a mandatory condom usage law for gays to limit HIV? It would be no more effective than banning gay sex. How can you make sure nothing happens behind closed doors?

It's not going away. People are gay, will always be gay, there's nothing that can be done. While I think homosexuality is "abnormal" meaning most people are not homosexuals, there's nothing that can be done. There is no "treatment" for it, so that's the way they are.

So what is the entire deal with homosexuality on here? If you have a problem with it, don't have homosexual sex. The question is, should society require them to be safer about it?


How can you make sure anyone uses a condom behind closed doors? Homosexual sex is abnormal and far more prone to disease so it is a danger to society but you are correct, perversion will not go away.
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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I don't believe that anyone thinks it will "go away." Homosexuals have all the freedoms and liberties as the rest of us. I don't agree with it and believe it is a sin. Civil union whatever but marriage is between a man and a woman.
I don't like some of the militant in-your-face attitudes of some homosexuals and the chip on the shoulder attitude many display. Other than that I don't really care what consenting adults do behind closed doors.
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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will the gay threads go away?
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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How can you make sure anyone uses a condom behind closed doors? Homosexual sex is abnormal and far more prone to disease so it is a danger to society but you are correct, perversion will not go away.
While i admit that homosexual sex is more prone to HIV and possibly other STDs due to the nature, are you proposing banning it? How can you ban something that occurs behind closed doors?
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I don't believe that anyone thinks it will "go away." Homosexuals have all the freedoms and liberties as the rest of us. I don't agree with it and believe it is a sin. Civil union whatever but marriage is between a man and a woman.
I don't like some of the militant in-your-face attitudes of some homosexuals and the chip on the shoulder attitude many display. Other than that I don't really care what consenting adults do behind closed doors.
I actually agree with you other than sin. I'm not in remotely convinced that the bible is factual. I do see health implications with homosexual sex, but heteros do it too. I can understand the argument that homosexuals can present a health risk, by donating blood etc without testing, which isn't done anyways now, so it was once possible to infect others, via blood, but now, it's people who are on the downlow, and bisexual who present the most risk. Openly homoexual who are exclusively homosexual don't, though they present a risk to each other if they engage in risky behavior...

I agree I don't understand the outrage of the distinction between civil unions and marriage, it's the same thing, other than name. You sound quite liberal for someone who is religious, as I would have though religious people would have been opposed to any kind of state recognition of homosexual relationships...
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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Mandatory condom usage law? I think that one belongs in the under-18 straight crowd, personally.

Anyway, how the heck would you monitor this? A penile latex sensor that broadcasts to the cellular network? How would you ever prove anything was or wasn't a result of improper condom usage, outside of pregnancy (which only happens when male and female privates collide).

Last edited by 43north87west; 09-26-2010 at 06:44 PM.. Reason: sloppy grammar 'n typo
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: mancos
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If you are a homo fine go do it and be happy. We don't really need all the parades and requests for taxpayer money for your diseases. do your thing and shut up
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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If you are a homo fine go do it and be happy. We don't really need all the parades and requests for taxpayer money for your diseases. do your thing and shut up
But isn't it really the closeted and bisexuals who infect others? A true gay person wouldn't have sex with a straight person.... So it's the ones in the closet or bisexuals that spread HIV, no?

So the people who are in denial or hiding it are the ones who are the greatest risk to society, no?

And yes, how could any of this be enforced?
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: On Top
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will the gay threads go away?
No kidding, a bunch of gay threads get merged and the same old suspects author new ones, maybe
it's time the authors went away eh mods?
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