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Old 09-14-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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Don't put words into my mouth. The US is a mixed bag just like any other country.
That is exactly how you came across. America and the West is responsible for other countries' woes because we did bad things historically. How about these poor craphole countries take responsibility for themselves or go extinct. That's how it should work and always had until the bleeding hearts among us thought it was a good idea to prop them all up and support them. If man was to interject this nonsense into the animal kingdom, nothing would have ever went extinct on our watch and evolution would halt. The bottom line though is, we CAN'T control the natural ebb and flow of Natural Selection and should not ever try to. That goes for economies as well.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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Yeah right, let's just interfere with laws of nature that state the strong survive and the weak die, AKA NATURAL SELECTION. These poor countries are the weaklings of society, by all means they should go extinct. They provide nothing to the rest of the world and just take. Aren't you people into population control??? America didn't cause their problems, they were having these same problems before America even existed.
Well, if you look at China and India for instance, they have both been around for thousands of years. Naturally over such long periods their status goes up and down and at the moment they are on the rise again.
Regardless of that, I don't believe in social Darwinism. We are humans and not some stupid lions or sharks.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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D'Souza is a far right evangelical nutjob.
Lousy "source".
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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They weren't facts, they were opinions.
More illegal immigrants have been deported under this admin than any other.

The domestic economy is no longer hemorrhaging 600,000 jobs a month as it was when Obama took office.

Easy to look up, unless you don't want to know.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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Yeah right, let's just interfere with laws of nature that state the strong survive and the weak die, AKA NATURAL SELECTION. These poor countries are the weaklings of society, by all means they should go extinct. They provide nothing to the rest of the world and just take. Aren't you people into population control??? America didn't cause their problems, they were having these same problems before America even existed.
"It's no accident that the social democracies, Sweden, France, and Germany, which kept on paying high wages, now have more industry than the U.S. or the UK.... Germany is now experiencing a recovery that's leaving the United States in the dust."

Did growing international trade make U.S. incomes less equal? (6) - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/wo...14germany.html
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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Well, if you look at China and India for instance, they have both been around for thousands of years. Naturally over such long periods their status goes up and down and at the moment they are on the rise again.
Regardless of that, I don't believe in social Darwinism. We are humans and not some stupid lions or sharks.
First off, just because man has a brain the size we do, does NOT mean in any way that we are superior to any other animal. We are newborns on the stage compared to other animals in geological time. They are wayyyyy more advanced in many ways than humans. They have been around longer and have evolved and adapted much more than humans have. Humans need to stop thinking that they have the answers to everything, because we clearly don't especially when it comes to the planet or nature. If a civilization of people are starving or are that poor, they either need to adapt or die, it's that simple. Supporting them only leads to generations of "poor me" and does nothing to help them in the long run. If they live in a desert, then the answer is simple...MIGRATE or DIE!

BTW, Inida is not the places I'm talking about, they have money there, it's just their way of governing that destroys them, again, that's their OWN fault, just like the many other nations that are struggling. They made their bed, they can lay in it now.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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"It's no accident that the social democracies, Sweden, France, and Germany, which kept on paying high wages, now have more industry than the U.S. or the UK.... Germany is now experiencing a recovery that's leaving the United States in the dust."

Did growing international trade make U.S. incomes less equal? (6) - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/wo...14germany.html
Incase you never knew...Those countries you listed are not poor. Nice try though. Also, they are embracing free markets more now, hence the faster recovery. But hey, you support them using more capitalism, but not the US. Go figure where your priorities lie.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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More illegal immigrants have been deported under this admin than any other.

The domestic economy is no longer hemorrhaging 600,000 jobs a month as it was when Obama took office.

Easy to look up, unless you don't want to know.
Straw men. Thanks for playing though.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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It's pretty clear that Obama's agenda truly is NOT
in Americas best interest his Character and Policies
are proof of this !


He sold his soul and this country because George Soros
bank rolled him and now Obama has to follow through
unless he wants to become what America is slowly becoming
LOST

Did you ever wonder how Obama comes up with all of the crap that he is trying to get legalized into our way of life. He didn't think of it himself, but his boss gave him his orders to do all of the things that he has already tried and did.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=977


"Life's tough......it's even tougher if you're stupid." -- John Wayne

"We live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

Why?

Unfortunately, we are now beginning to understand what the second
one means and what the first says about us.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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It's pretty clear that Obama's agenda truly is NOT
in Americas best interest his Character and Policies
are proof of this !


He sold his soul and this country because George Soros
bank rolled him and now Obama has to follow through
unless he wants to become what America is slowly becoming
LOST

Did you ever wonder how Obama comes up with all of the crap that he is trying to get legalized into our way of life. He didn't think of it himself, but his boss gave him his orders to do all of the things that he has already tried and did.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=977


"Life's tough......it's even tougher if you're stupid." -- John Wayne

"We live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

Why?

Unfortunately, we are now beginning to understand what the second
one means and what the first says about us.
The typical lemmings won't even know what you just said, nevermind understand it.
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