04-09-2009, 08:59 AM
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Agree with the above. Here is a link to Pitt's nursing programs. Look under "Accelerated 2nd degree"
Academics at the University of Pittsburgh School of Nursing
An ADN at CCAC or equvalent may take as long as a BSN under this program. Another point to consider is that eventually you may get tired of going to school, and never get the BSN if you go the ADN route. I work with a nurse in that situation.
04-09-2009, 09:33 AM
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That is true. School gets to be a lot after a while.
The only thing I get nervous about with the Accelerated Program is the fact that I wouldn't be able to work part-time to pay for my monthly bills. I'm trying not to take out loans for that (even though with an Accelerated program at Pitt I would have to for the program) considering I am already paying back my undergrad loans :/ For some reason I am thinking a certificate program such as Mercy is going to allow me more flexibility to work part-time? Maybe I am mistaken?
I think my friend did a certificate program at a Nursing School in Pittsburgh and she started out at $20/hr. I obviously would like to eventually make the most money possible that I could with being an RN.
04-09-2009, 09:44 AM
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Were you laid off? Many people are unaware that CCAC is waiving tuition for people who have lost their jobs. You wouldn't qualify if you quit your job though. And I'm not sure if it applies to all programs available at CCAC, but it's worth looking into though.
04-09-2009, 10:02 AM
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That is true. School gets to be a lot after a while.
The only thing I get nervous about with the Accelerated Program is the fact that I wouldn't be able to work part-time to pay for my monthly bills. I'm trying not to take out loans for that (even though with an Accelerated program at Pitt I would have to for the program) considering I am already paying back my undergrad loans :/ For some reason I am thinking a certificate program such as Mercy is going to allow me more flexibility to work part-time? Maybe I am mistaken?
I think my friend did a certificate program at a Nursing School in Pittsburgh and she started out at $20/hr. I obviously would like to eventually make the most money possible that I could with being an RN.
From what I remember of the diploma programs, you don't have a lot of spare time in them, either, to work more than a few hours a week. In my day, anyway, all were full time programs. All nursing programs have clinicals which take up a lot of time and don't give you much flexibility. You also won't be an RN until after you graduate and take the licensing exam. If you work in nursing at all while going to school, you will be working as some sort of ancillary personnell and probably paid $10-12/hr. You also probably won't be able to work a full shift except on weekends, and hospitals are notoriously inflexible. You will probably have to work in retail or a restaurant, something like that, while going to school in any of these programs.
04-09-2009, 10:31 AM
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My wife went to St Francis (is it even in existance now?) and work came to her in bunches. She came out of that program smoking hot. We've moved to three different States and here License has followed her easily. There will ALWAYS be work in the field.
04-09-2009, 10:45 AM
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From what I remember of the diploma programs, you don't have a lot of spare time in them, either, to work more than a few hours a week. In my day, anyway, all were full time programs. All nursing programs have clinicals which take up a lot of time and don't give you much flexibility. You also won't be an RN until after you graduate and take the licensing exam. If you work in nursing at all while going to school, you will be working as some sort of ancillary personnell and probably paid $10-12/hr. You also probably won't be able to work a full shift except on weekends, and hospitals are notoriously inflexible. You will probably have to work in retail or a restaurant, something like that, while going to school in any of these programs.
That's true. That's why many people opt to get as much coursework out of the way as possible prior to applying to a school of nursing. Regardless of which route she takes, it will be difficult to work during clinical. Many people opt to take out student loans to cover living expenses.
04-09-2009, 12:38 PM
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04-09-2009, 12:49 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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No, I wasn't laid off. After many ups and downs with my thoughts, I decided to quit and move home because I miss all of my family and friends too much...plus this area isn't that great to me...especially with the cost of living.
I figured I wouldn't have a lot of time with clinical and what not. I would probably waitress considering that is what I am going to be doing once I move back home next Friday. It's not the best situation, but it gets me home
If I end up doing a certificate program at Mercy, I'm not sure there is too much prereqs I need to get out of the way before the program starts. I guess they would tell me that once I turn my transcripts in from Pitt and SRU.
04-09-2009, 12:59 PM
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I figured I wouldn't have a lot of time with clinical and what not. I would probably waitress considering that is what I am going to be doing once I move back home next Friday. It's not the best situation, but it gets me home
My BIL still had a lot of studying, papers and exams to do during clinical.
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If I end up doing a certificate program at Mercy, I'm not sure there is too much prereqs I need to get out of the way before the program starts. I guess they would tell me that once I turn my transcripts in from Pitt and SRU.
I wouldn't wait that long.
Just from looking at their website, you can get an idea of some of the courses you will need to get started on:
UPMC Mercy School of Nursing Curriculum – UPMC, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
anatomy and physiology I and II
nutrition
microbiology
introduction to psychology
growth and development across the life span
introduction to sociology
biomedical ethics
Verify ahead of time which CCAC credits they accept.
04-09-2009, 02:06 PM
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Katania,
I have a personal opinion that the AAS programs are not the greatest. Those programs have been popular for about the last 40 years.
The general breakdown of nurses by education in this country is 25% bachelors degrees, and 75% AAS degrees. There aren't many diploma nurses around any more. Here in Colorado, it's more like 50/50 (sorry, I don't remember where I read that, so I can't cite the article.) Also, I worked for a long time in public heatlh, where a BSN is required (for the most part.) So I can't really evaluate. The office where I work now has all BSNs.
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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