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Old 08-05-2008, 01:19 PM
 
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Forbes compiled another "list" of America's Fastest Dying Cities and Pittsburgh didn't make the list!

Of course, we all know to take these lists with a grain of salt. I kinda disagreed with it anyway as these cities could be "dying" based on their criteria but none of them really feel like they are dying when you're visiting. They took pictures of the most run-down parts of each to make each city look like a decayed ghost-town but that is not the case for the cities on the list that I've been to. Anyway, just happy Pittsburgh didn't make the list, regardless.
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Youngstown, OH
  • Dayton, OH
  • Canton, OH
  • Detroit, MI
  • Flint, MI
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Springfield, MA
  • Scranton, PA
  • Charleston, WV
America's Fastest-Dying Cities - Forbes.com

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Old 08-05-2008, 02:06 PM
 
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Forbes list are lame. They come out with a list every 10 days, and they have nothing substantail about them.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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It's all a direct result of manual labor jobs leaving the USA.
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:02 PM
 
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I agree these lists are generally quite suspect, but I also think it is true Pittsburgh has done a better job transitioning to a post-industrial economy than some other "rust belt" cities.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, USA
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It's a list of Northeast cities. New Orleans, living under sea level and having the 2nd highest murder rate this year must be doing wonderful. I didn't read about Forbes' criteria for this list as their lists are always far degenerated and untimely. If you believe them, it's a wonder you can drive in downtown Pgh. because of all the blinding soot and smoke.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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It said the only cities with a worse population loss than Cleveland since 2000 have been New Orleans and Pittsburgh.

Oddly enough, the economy around here isn't terrible, compared either to western boomtowns or to the places on this list. The economy has transitioned better around here.

In the past three years I've been to Youngstown, Scranton, Cleveland and Buffalo, and except for Cleveland, they're certainly worthy of deathwatch status.

Last edited by alleghenyman; 08-06-2008 at 10:49 AM.. Reason: actually not bashing Cleveland!
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:55 AM
 
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On the subject of Cleveland, I was talking to this lady, and she didn't understand why I liked Pittsburgh (she literally said "really?" like I was from another planet). Apparently, she was originally from Cleveland and said there was a huge rivalry between the two cities. I'm not originally from Pittsburgh, so I just shrugged it off.

Sounded to me like a battle between the two biggest losers (in terms of people moving out.)
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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I think the Pittsburgh/Cleveland rivalry is silly, when the two cities are so similar - except that one of them is flat. I think Cleveland (and Ohio's) problem is that it had a greater reliance on heavy industry and autos more recently than Pittsburgh did. Our economy is more diversified (I'd guess), so we aren't experiencing the huge slump that the rest of the midwest is having. The two cities are so close in distance that there should be more cooperation between the two. But both are also very territorial and a bit provincial.
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lifepgh2op View Post
Forbes compiled another "list" of America's Fastest Dying Cities and Pittsburgh didn't make the list!

Of course, we all know to take these lists with a grain of salt. I kinda disagreed with it anyway as these cities could be "dying" based on their criteria but none of them really feel like they are dying when you're visiting. They took pictures of the most run-down parts of each to make each city look like a decayed ghost-town but that is not the case for the cities on the list that I've been to. Anyway, just happy Pittsburgh didn't make the list, regardless.
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Youngstown, OH
  • Dayton, OH
  • Canton, OH
  • Detroit, MI
  • Flint, MI
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Springfield, MA
  • Scranton, PA
  • Charleston, WV
America's Fastest-Dying Cities - Forbes.com
I can assure you - Buffalo is already dead. It died many, many years ago. The suburbs are hanging on, but just barely....
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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On the subject of Cleveland, I was talking to this lady, and she didn't understand why I liked Pittsburgh (she literally said "really?" like I was from another planet). Apparently, she was originally from Cleveland and said there was a huge rivalry between the two cities. I'm not originally from Pittsburgh, so I just shrugged it off.

Sounded to me like a battle between the two biggest losers (in terms of people moving out.)
It's a football issue, mainly (IMO). It wasn't so much that way when I was a kid.
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