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Old 12-18-2021, 07:47 PM
 
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Bingo…but muh Fauci said, lol.
Option should read as opinion. Mac spellcheck got me again.
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Old 12-19-2021, 08:20 AM
 
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Joe is going to warn everybody again.

Let’s see how the fight for personal responsibility plays out.

https://news.yahoo.com/joe-biden-set...101623000.html
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Old 12-19-2021, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Joe is going to warn everybody again.

Let’s see how the fight for personal responsibility plays out.

https://news.yahoo.com/joe-biden-set...101623000.html
Too bad he didn’t take endorsing the vaccine so seriously from the beginning.
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Old 12-19-2021, 10:05 AM
 
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Good news so far:

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Soaring COVID-19 case numbers, long testing lines and event cancellations might feel a bit like déjà vu, but so far New York City hospitals aren’t seeing a repeat of the surges that swamped emergency rooms early in the pandemic.

The state reported Saturday that nearly 22,000 people had tested positive for COVID-19 on Friday — eclipsing the previous day's mark for the highest single-day total for new cases since testing became widely available. More than half of the positive results were in the city
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coro...efore/3458116/
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Old 12-19-2021, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Great news

Not long ago millions of dollars were wasted on temporary buildings being put up due to fearmongering and insistence of hospitals being overfilled.
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Old 12-19-2021, 12:41 PM
 
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While not a direct connection to the Pittsburgh area itself, the fact that this pertains to Covid and whether or not you should have your children jabbed will make this relevant to anyone with kids. This is from the inventor of the RNA Messenger technology.

https://rumble.com/vqq7gc-dr.-robert...our-child.html
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Old 12-19-2021, 02:51 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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While not a direct connection to the Pittsburgh area itself, the fact that this pertains to Covid and whether or not you should have your children jabbed will make this relevant to anyone with kids. This is from the inventor of the RNA Messenger technology.

https://rumble.com/vqq7gc-dr.-robert...our-child.html
The only person who credits Malone with the invention of the mRNA technology is Robert Malone himself. It is true he worked on early mRNA technology over 30 years ago when he was a graduate student. The mRNA vaccines were ultimately the result of the contributions of hundreds of researchers, of whom Malone was one of the early ones. He has since turned into an anti vaxxer. He has received criticism for propagating COVID-19 misinformation, including making unsupported claims about the alleged toxicity of spike proteins generated by some COVID-19 vaccines.
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Old 12-19-2021, 03:10 PM
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The only person who credits Malone with the invention of the mRNA technology is Robert Malone himself. It is true he worked on early mRNA technology over 30 years ago when he was a graduate student. The mRNA vaccines were ultimately the result of the contributions of hundreds of researchers, of whom Malone was one of the early ones. He has since turned into an anti vaxxer. He has received criticism for propagating COVID-19 misinformation, including making unsupported claims about the alleged toxicity of spike proteins generated by some COVID-19 vaccines.
He knows more than us. In the article he just states don’t vaccinate healthy young people. I never understood why we ever started doing it in the first place, but I love statistics and it is clear young people don’t need to worry about Covid. Doesn’t mean people are anti vaccinate types, they just read logically.
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Old 12-20-2021, 06:35 AM
 
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He knows more than us. In the article he just states don’t vaccinate healthy young people. I never understood why we ever started doing it in the first place, but I love statistics and it is clear young people don’t need to worry about Covid. Doesn’t mean people are anti vaccinate types, they just read logically.
Anti-vaxxers so greatly impair American society, not only during the ongoing COVID epidemic, but now by challenging all vaccine mandates, including for polio, measles, etc.

Opponents of COVID vaccine mandates and even mask mandates never discuss how children, even when asymptomatic, can transmit the COVID variants with serious, if not deadly, consequences for their breadwinners, caregivers and mentors.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...m%20COVID%2D19.

Sadly in the U.S., few politicians and NO anti-vaxxers ever discuss long COVID, which is a serious concern among unvaccinated children and much more among teens and young adults, though perhaps not as a great a concern as among unvaccinated adults.

<<In recent weeks, COVID-19 infection rates among U.S. children and teens have jumped 32%, and nearly 6.8 million young people have already been infected. As for pediatric long COVID-19 rates, research places them anywhere from 2% to 50%, with some experts suggesting the number is closer to 10%. That means hundreds of thousands of kids and teens will likely be impacted.>>

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/s...-long-covid-19

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/u...-benefits.html

<<No one is certain exactly how many people who've had COVID-19 end up being long haulers. One study showed that as many as 52% of teens and young adults between ages 16 and 30 may experience lingering symptoms 6 months after having COVID. The U.K. Office for National Statistics estimated that 12.9% of children 2 to 11 years of age, and 14.5% of children 12 to 16 years old, still experienced symptoms 5 weeks after infection.

What experts do know is that long-haul COVID can happen even in people who had mild or no symptoms of COVID-19. The symptoms they had during the acute infection may not go away, even long after their infection is gone. Sometimes, long-haul COVID symptoms start after a person is feeling better. Or, if they were asymptomatic (didn't have COVID symptoms), they may experience them weeks later. Any of these symptoms can be new and different, or they may be the same as the ones your child had during the COVID infection.>>

https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...and-Teens.aspx

<<With long COVID, many kids suddenly find themselves struggling to keep up with their schoolwork or skipping sports. Others can’t sleep or have difficulty walking, while yet others struggle with aches and pains, breathlessness, dizziness, and other troubling symptoms.>>

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-in-kids
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:14 AM
 
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Anti-vaxxers promote one medical professional whose outlandish opinions are NOT based on empirical research. This thread is riddled with Big Lie COVID propaganda such as described in this article about Dr. Robert Malone:

<<The vaccines cause more harm than experts are letting on; Fauci is a liar and possibly a fascist; and the mainstream news media is either shamelessly complicit or too stupid to figure out what’s really going on....>>

Malone in the scientific community is viewed more as a disingenuous, self-promoter than as the inventor of the mRNA vaccine.

<<Karikó replied that she hadn’t told anyone that she is the inventor of mRNA vaccines and that “many many scientists” contributed to their success. “I have never claimed more than discovering a way to make RNA less inflammatory,” she wrote to him. She told me that Malone referred to himself in an email as her “mentor” and “coach,” though she says they’ve met in person only once, in 1997, when he invited her to give a talk. It’s Malone, according to Karikó, who has been overstating his accomplishments. There are “hundreds of scientists who contributed more to mRNA vaccines than he did.”>>

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...keptic/619734/

The reality is that I could find NO evidence that Malone is associated with a single successful mRNA vaccine. To compare him with Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin, famed developers of polio vaccines, is lunacy, despite his early involvement in studying DNA and RNA.

<<In any case, it’s clear enough that Malone isn’t singularly responsible for mRNA vaccines. The process of achieving major scientific advancements tends to be more cumulative and complex than the apple-to-the-head stories we usually tell, but this much can be said for sure: Malone was involved in groundbreaking work related to mRNA vaccines before it was cool or profitable; and he and others who believed in the potential of RNA-based vaccines in the 1980s turned out to be world-savingly correct.>>

Ironically, Malone seems to attribute his long COVID sequelae, which vaccination prevents by lowering the risk of infection, especially serious infection, with a subsequent post-infection vaccination that he received.

Malone's lament about his long COVID sequelae IMO should be a call for vaccination rather than an anti-vaxxer argument.

<<“My body will never be the same,” he told me. >>

One has to wonder how much money Malone is making by becoming a scientific talking head for anti-vaxxers, or whether the ego boost by championing vaccine hesitancy is mostly his sole reward.

<<The irony is that, to the audiences who tune in to those shows, the vaccines are seen as a scourge rather than a godsend. No matter how nuanced Malone might try to be, or how many qualifiers he appends to his opinions, he is egging on vaccine hesitancy at a time when hospitals in the least-vaccinated parts of the country are struggling to cope with an influx of new COVID-19 patients. If you want proof of that, scroll through the many comments from his followers thanking him for confirming their fears. Malone has finally made his mark, by undermining confidence in the very vaccine he says wouldn’t be possible without his genius.>>

Considering Malone, my mind also turns to the Wright brothers, who were considered charlatans until they actually demonstrated their Wright Flyer III, the world's first airplane, once patented. Instantly, they were the fathers of flight.

<<In years to come, Dayton newspapers would proudly celebrate the hometown Wright brothers as national heroes, but the local reporters somehow missed one of the most important stories in history as it was happening a few miles from their doorstep. J.M. Cox,[a] who published the Dayton Daily News at that time, expressed the attitude of newspapermen – and the public – in those days when he admitted years later: "Frankly, none of us believed it."[80]>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers

If you read the above article, it's clear that the Wrights stood on the shoulders of other aviation researchers.

Labeling Malone as the inventor of mRNA vaccines IMO is an insult to all of history's great inventors, especially Salk and Sabin, despite Malone's contributions to RNA research.
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