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Old 05-07-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think you'd need to test the design in more commercial districts before people would be willing to consider it somewhere like Liberty Avenue. Liberty is a bit too wide for the traffic however (possibly due to being built for a streetcar, unlike Penn Avenue, which is older), and is a good candidate for a road diet.

One interesting idea though would be to turn Penn Avenue through the lower Strip District. There's enough capacity on Liberty and Smallman that I think Penn could work as a much less car-friendly street.

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This is the idea of the past, what city planners did on the North Side with the walking plaza and mall at Allegheny Center and parking underneath- taking cars completely out of the intersection of Federal and North.

Ditto in East Liberty and the Penn Circle scheme which removed a lot of vehicles out of the middle of East Lib.

Same in Carnegie and the West Mall Plaza which didn't have cars for a number of years.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Philly
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This is the idea of the past, what city planners did on the North Side with the walking plaza and mall at Allegheny Center and parking underneath- taking cars completely out of the intersection of Federal and North.

Ditto in East Liberty and the Penn Circle scheme which removed a lot of vehicles out of the middle of East Lib.

Same in Carnegie and the West Mall Plaza which didn't have cars for a number of years.
the link i posted is about sharing space rsther than segregating it. rather than build an underground garage and eliminate traffic from allegheny center it would have kept cars and let people legally cross several times per block with no stop signs.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Philly
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this is whats happening to beer and it seems conceivable it will happen to other segments such as distilleries, charcuterie, and potentially other food segments.
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