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Old 12-11-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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Surprisingly, the economy in midwestern states aren't doing as well as "they" have claimed.

Toping the list of states that have fleeing populations:

New York
Illinois
Ohio
Nebraska
Kansas
Iowa
Louisiana
North Dekota
South Dekota
Mississippi

States People Are Fleeing - Forbes.com
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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Surprisingly, the economy in midwestern states aren't doing as well as "they" have claimed.

Toping the list of states that have fleeing populations:

New York
Illinois
Ohio
Nebraska
Kansas
Iowa
Louisiana
North Dekota
South Dekota
Mississippi

States People Are Fleeing - Forbes.com
Hi Hopes

It would be interesting to see data for Eastern or Western Pennslvania, that would give a more accurate picture of Pittsburgh vs everyone else.
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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Oh, stop! Why ruin my fun?

Regardless, this is a comparison of state to state throughout the country, not one side of a state to another side of a state.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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The author does not say where she got her statistics. (The comments are hilarious, BTW.) All of these states on the list had population growth from 2000-2009. Some such as LA and N. Dak had very small growth, others had growth less than the national average, but in some cases close to it. People are certainly not "fleeing" these states.

North Dakota QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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The author does not say where she got her statistics. (The comments are hilarious, BTW.) All of these states on the list had population growth from 2000-2009. Some such as LA and N. Dak had very small growth, others had growth less than the national average, but in some cases close to it. People are certainly not "fleeing" these states.

North Dakota QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
Katiana, I knew you wouldn't fail me! "They" always know who "they" are!



The article says the statistics come from Moody's economy.com .

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Using 2010 projections by Moody's ( MCO - news - people ) Economy.com, Forbes ranked the states in which people are leaving faster than they are arriving.


I knew you'd appreciate the humor!
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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I consider Pennsylvania's "peer" states to be Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, New York and Ohio. Of the six states, Pennsylvania is the only one to have had positive domestic migration in recent years. It used to be slightly negative, but since 2005 or so, it's changed to slightly positive. The other five all have been, and are still, strongly negative.

As for western Pennsylvania versus eastern Pennsylvania, it's probably negative in western Pennsylvania and positive in eastern Pennsylvania. Good news is, the Pittsburgh metropolitan area posted positive migration between 2008 and 2009, so not all is bad in western Pennsylvania.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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PA's population numbers are more likely to increase with the pending marcellus shale boom.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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PA's population numbers are more likely to increase with the pending marcellus shale boom.
I'm not sure that's a good trade off. I'd rather protect our clean water supply than gain population.
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Old 12-11-2010, 01:52 PM
 
Location: North Oakland
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I'm not sure that's a good trade off. I'd rather protect our clean water supply than gain population.
Mmm-hmmm.
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Old 12-11-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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Some states regularly have negative net domestic migration because they are international immigration gateways (e.g., New York). People immigrate to these places first, then later on move farther into the country. I wouldn't be surprised if this explains some of these numbers--international immigration to the U.S. has crashed, but people who immigrated pre-recession might still be filtering farther into the country, causing a net outflow effect.
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