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Old 10-24-2012, 07:23 AM
 
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Just announced by Nikon Nikon launches 70-200mm f/4 VR telezoom with claimed 5-stop stabilization: Digital Photography Review looks very good, To me, it's the missing link in the Nikon lens lineup.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Personally, I see very little advantage to 70-200mm f/4 since one can get a 70-300 that is usually within a stop. However, the 5-stop VR is interesting and especially if it really works as advertised. We would be talking handheld shots at 200mm at 1/10s.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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there is a huge difference in every respect between the 70-200 f2.8 vr and 70-300m. the 70 to 300 had very limited use for me when i owned it. i sold it for the superior 80-200mm f2.8



the 70-300mm really cant hold a candle to the 70-200 when it comes to usefulness.

i bought the 80-200mm f2.8 not even the 70-200 which has vr and the usefulness was so much greater then the 70-300mm. the 70 to 300 i found

limited to just good light outdoors. the 70-200mm is just great for shooting concerts and shows where you can indoors .
the difference in speed to capture dancers as well as low light abilty is night and day.

im sorry i got the 80-200mm f2.8 which is about 1,000 instead of the 70-200mm f2.8 with vr even though its way more..
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If the 70-300 was f/4-5.6, it should be less than a stop slower than 70-200 f/4 over the same focal length. One issue I have with 70-200mm f/2.8 (and a reason I have stuck with 200mm f/2.8 prime instead) is size and weight that should be addressed somewhat by an f/4 version. However, 70-300 f/4-5.6 lenses are also usually small and light so 70-200 won't offer an advantage against them.
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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the 30-300m is 5.6 at the long end . it really is not even close to the 70-200m vr especially with vr on the 70-200mm. . its the difference between a blurry photo and a clear one hand held indoors especially with sports or dancing.

like i said i hardley ever used my 70-300 except in daylight at the zoo.

i find i use the 80-200mm f2.8 indoors alot. .
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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the 30-300m is 5.6 at the long end . it really is not even close to the 70-200m vr especially with vr on the 70-200mm. . its the difference between a blurry photo and a clear one hand held indoors especially with sports or dancing.
But, that is at 300mm. It is possible that the 70-300mm has a maximum aperture of f/5 or larger, at 200mm, which would translate to less than a stop at that focal length. VR or any kind of in-body/optical stabilization won't help against motion blur, which is where large aperture would help.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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its 5.6 at 200mmm and focus in dim light sucks. its slow as molasses as it is . trust me i owned it. there is 2 stops difference . its not even close .
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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its 5.6 at 200mmm and focus in dim light sucks. its slow as molasses as it is . trust me i owned it. there is 2 stops difference . its not even close .
f/5.6 at 200mm would suck, but only by a stop though when compared to this new 70-200 f/4. The difference would be greater (2-stops) with 70-200 f/2.8.

Personally, I haven't really considered a 70-300 (or other choices available to me such as 55-200, 55-210, 55-300) mostly because I favor larger max apertures. But when it was time to get one, instead of going for an optically stabilized 55-200mm lens for my Sony NEX, I went with a nice lens from late 1970s covering 70-210mm f/2.8-4. That lens offers f/2.8 from 70 to about 135mm and slows down to f/4 the rest of the way. So, while I don't get stabilization with it, I make up a stop or more due to brighter glass!
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Old 10-27-2012, 04:00 AM
 
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i do regret not springing for the 70-300mm f2.8 vr.

the step up from the 70-300mm f4/5.6 vr i had to the f2.8mm 80-200mm opened up a whole new world in indoor photograpgy for me. the faster shooting speeds make the difference between hand held blurry photos and nice clean sharp crisp ones.

i went from uing my cheaper 70-300m f4-5.6 to really just the zoo to using it under a whole lot more lighting conditions.

its about another 1k difference between my 80-200mm and the 70-200mm mm but well worth it if you do dimlight shooting.
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