BBQ on your patio or balcony? (Phoenix, Tucson: apartments, lease, insurance)

[paraglox]

Hi I'm moving to PHX in August. I went down to visit in March and I found out in PHX you can't have a bbq on your patio or bbq. (not even a propane grill).

I was wondering do any of the surrounding cities have these same restrictions. tempe, mesa, scottsdale etc.?

Thanks

[Howard Roark]

I had the same deal in Tucson. One place allowed a grill on the patio. My roommate and my neighbors there cooked on their patio every late afternoon/evening. They were a great couple and did the work as a team, ate in style, and cleaned up the grill and the dishes and stuff to where it was spotless. To them it was well worth it.

In my other place they banned grills because of the fire hazard. I think it partly depends on how large the patios are. The first place had large patios. If there is a great deal of wood overhang, then no grills. Makes sense.

In LA where I rent, I'm on the third floor and I get cool ocean air daily. But then when I want to really keep the windows open when it's warmer, someone fires up a grill and the smell of soot gets into my apartment. I have to close up and use the artificial air (air conditioner) to be able to stand the enclosed room in the summer then.

At one place in Tucson my girlfriend and I were okay about having to walk around the next building to the barbecue. So walking back and forth to check up on the food - what else can you do?

[observer53]

Originally Posted by paraglox

Hi I'm moving to PHX in August. I went down to visit in March and I found out in PHX you can't have a bbq on your patio or bbq. (not even a propane grill).

I was wondering do any of the surrounding cities have these same restrictions. tempe, mesa, scottsdale etc.?

Thanks

I looked in the ordinances and zoning code for Phoenix, and I'm not sure what you are referring to.(and, you say "you can't have a bbq on your patio or bbq"-- that doesn't make sense, you must have meant something else.)

If that same provision applies in Tempe, I know some folks who are violating it.

[NYorkFeinix]

never thought that law could ever exist lol

[Howard Roark]

I had a colleague once whose neighbors had a fire pit on the second floor balcony of their house. The whole house burned down. I won't say where or when this happened to protect the info. But I'm serious! And yes this was in the Phoenix area. How retarded/Darwinist is that to have a custom fire pit on the second floor balcony of your house?

P.S. There is a reason why custom can be lethal.

[Finger Laker]

are you talking about apartments or homes? - i'm unaware of any such zoning that would ban a bbq on your own patio for a private residence

if so I doubt it's enforced as I don't know many people who do not have one

[AZJoeD]

Most Multi-Family complexes (apts, condos, etc.) do not allow barbecues, it is fire code. Most larger complexes have grills in the common areas.

If you have a Single Family home and want to grill on your deck it is up to you.

[sunburst2]

That's apartment living!!

[Howard Roark]

There are good things and bad things about it. I like having more people around in closer densities because there tends to be more businesses around. SFH areas have very little walkability (where you can walk to the movies, the pubs, upscale restaurants, arts, and so on).

Apartments tend to be much smaller than SFHs, so the rent is usually less expensive than surrounding homes, even at the house prices in Phoenix, which have dropped 50% in many areas. I am paying $906 per month for a 2 bedroom 2 bath apartment in a gated community which is very peaceful and quiet. The grills are in designated areas. No big deal. I prefer not to be burned out, let alone smoked out. Nearby houses are $200,000 or more in comp prices on Zillow (those that sold recently). The monthly payment figures are principle and interest, but don't include taxes, insurance, and maintenance. I would guess totaling $1500 per month for the lowest priced house.

Having no grill on the balcony is moot.

Originally Posted by sunburst2

That's apartment living!!

[KarmaPhx]

I am in the same situation, my apartments do not allow grilling out on the patio. I looked at my lease, and it clearly says no propane/charcoal grills, nothing about electric grills! I picked up an outdoor electric grill at walmart, way less smoke, and works great for $30.