Phoenix tax hike: $30 billion, 30 year light rail funding (2013, transporting)

[Rico Valencia]

Great news, it's high time the residents in the upper middle class sections of Phoenix like Desert Ridge, Ahwatukee, Arcadia and Norterra finally pay their "fair share" and help make Phoenix a vibrant, walkable, and respected world-class city.

[Wally Sconce]

Originally Posted by Rico Valencia

Great news, it's high time the residents in the upper middle class sections of Phoenix like Desert Ridge, Ahwatukee, Arcadia and Norterra finally pay their "fair share" and help make Phoenix a vibrant, walkable, and respected world-class city.

Maybe when places like Norterra get some bus service they will be happy to chip in. The north tip of Phoenix is as much as 14 years old with no bus for 10 miles.

[Pink Jazz]

Originally Posted by corydon

And as for going to the mall by light rail.... Sure, carrying all your stuff to the platform, than to your house.. I don't think so.....

And since when do many people carry a massive amount of bags when shopping at malls? Very rarely. Mall shopping is nothing like grocery shopping where you have a trunk full of bags. On my Pink Line if you can't find what you want at Chandler Fashion Center, hop onboard to go to either SanTan Village or Superstition Springs Center. The same goes with my Purple Line if you want to go between Arizona Mills and Superstition Springs, as well as my Brown Line between Scottsdale Fashion Square and Chandler Fashion Center.

[corydon]

Sounds to me the colorblind folks wil get lost.... What about a number for a line? Or no What do I care... don't live in Phoenix, just my 2 cents worth that it is going to cost more than 30 B, once a project like this is under way it WIL go over budget.
And everybody drives a car.

[Pink Jazz]

Originally Posted by corydon

Sounds to me the colorblind folks wil get lost.... What about a number for a line? Or no What do I care... don't live in Phoenix, just my 2 cents worth that it is going to cost more than 30 B, once a project like this is under way it WIL go over budget.
And everybody drives a car.

Many cities use colors for rail lines, most notably Chicago. Numbers/letters only make sense if you have too many lines to use colors such as NYC. Even then, the NYC Subway uses colors to identify trunk lines (example, red for the 1/2/3 Seventh Avenue Line and blue for the A/C/E Eighth Avenue Line), even though most people don't identify lines by color in everyday speech.

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by Pink Jazz

Many cities use colors for rail lines, most notably Chicago. Numbers/letters only make sense if you have too many lines to use colors such as NYC. Even then, the NYC Subway uses colors to identify trunk lines (example, red for the 1/2/3 Seventh Avenue Line and blue for the A/C/E Eighth Avenue Line), even though most people don't identify lines by color in everyday speech.

NYC is one of the few U.S. cities in which people identify rail transit lines primarily by number. In Los Angeles, Boston, Washington D.C., Minneapolis - St. Paul, Atlanta, Chicago, and many other places, colors rule. In a few cities like Philadelphia, lines are identified simply by name (e.g. "Market - Frankford" or "Broad Street).

[pbenjamin]

In a strong indication that pigs really do have the potential to fly, Doug McEachern supports the sales tax increase.

Light rail now a must for central Phoenix development

[kent_moore]

Since I am advocating for less carbon emission for better environment, I support mass transit in Phoenix.

[stevek64]

Originally Posted by kent_moore

Since I am advocating for less carbon emission for better environment, I support mass transit in Phoenix.

It all depends:

Is green U.S. mass transit a big myth?

[Bruce Jackpot]

Originally Posted by corydon

Sounds to me the colorblind folks wil get lost.... What about a number for a line? Or no What do I care... don't live in Phoenix, just my 2 cents worth that it is going to cost more than 30 B, once a project like this is under way it WIL go over budget.
And everybody drives a car.

Since you don't live in Phoenix, you don't notice there's quite a bit of people who rely on the bus and lightrail. The times I've ridden LR around commuter time it's been packed. A lot of those people are riding for the convenience and not having to pay to park- while I'm sure many don't have cars. Poor people and a lot of the college students at ASU and downtown don't have cars.