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Old 08-22-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's actually harmful for a child to be taught to read before they are developmentally ready. They have so much they need to learn as toddlers, and people just want to rush them. Sure there are a few kids who are ready earlier than most, but they are not the norm.

The best things parents can do for kids is to read aloud wonderful picture books every night. Expose your young kids to books, but don't push them.

You need to tell Bill Gates and Arne Duncan, among many others such as the academicians who developed Common Core, this.

They won't listen but you tried.
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Old 08-22-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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You need to tell Bill Gates and Arne Duncan, among many others such as the academicians who developed Common Core, this.

They won't listen but you tried.
Even many teachers feel that you should push really early reading. My experience in PK/K and reading and early childhood specialization tell me otherwise.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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no kudzu, as you know when you write Americans do this or Americans do that, you are saying ALL Americans, which is ridiculous. All Americans are citizens of their country and that is one of the few ways we can all be referred to that includes all of us. Do you really think ALL Americans are stupid and that includes you if you are an American. Do you fall for every con ad you see? What's a con ad?
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Finland
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It's actually harmful for a child to be taught to read before they are developmentally ready. They have so much they need to learn as toddlers, and people just want to rush them. Sure there are a few kids who are ready earlier than most, but they are not the norm.

The best things parents can do for kids is to read aloud wonderful picture books every night. Expose your young kids to books, but don't push them.
Absolutely agree with this.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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Even many teachers feel that you should push really early reading. My experience in PK/K and reading and early childhood specialization tell me otherwise.

It's not so much they want to, although some do, it's that they have no choice because of the new "voluntary" guidelines.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I taught a little boy that the parents taught to "read" by age two. He had tremendous issues with reading comprehension and also socialization. He was still doing parallel play at age 5.

they could give him a college level text book and he could decode most of the words. He didn't understand it of course. This was a party trick for the parents.

He also had memorized addition facts with no real knowledge of what it meant. He couldn't even count objects to 20.

I advised the parents to back off pushing the reading, and working on comprehension through their reading aloud to him.

He actually exited kinder on level with his peers and they learned to not put the cart before the horse.
One of the students in my Cognitive Disability class also had an amazing ability to decode and say words correctly. But, his comprehension was almost completely nonexistent, and his overall skill levels were at the three year level. No matter how hard I tried to explain to his parents that just because their darling seven year old son was decoding high school and college level words he was not a genius that should be referred to the gifted and talented program (the apple did not fall far from the tree in the case of that family).
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Where did we ever get the idea that an early reader meant a kid who would excel academically? It just means he learned how to read early---and sometimes lost interest pretty early as well.

In fact sometimes it turns out that a late reader or late bloomer can be the most gifted kid in the room.


Because people loooove to brag!! Oh, well my little Molly has been reading since she's 1 1/2. My Johnny boy can do addition and subtraction and he hasn't even started Kindergarten yet!!

It's the competitive thing --- and it takes away a lot of the guilt of dumping their kids with sitters for 10-12 hours a day OR makes the SAHM or SAHD look like they're doing an ahhhh maaaaazing job with the tots!
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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One of the students in my Cognitive Disability class also had an amazing ability to decode and say words correctly. But, his comprehension was almost completely nonexistent, and his overall skill levels were at the three year level. No matter how hard I tried to explain to his parents that just because their darling seven year old son was decoding high school and college level words he was not a genius that should be referred to the gifted and talented program (the apple did not fall far from the tree in the case of that family).
Exactly! These parents were clueless about what a small child actually needed to work on. He had very poor social skills, fine motor, gross motor, and nothing was wrong with him. Once they started working on this stuff he blossomed.

My recommendation....play dates. Lots of play dates and time playing all kinds of games.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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I learned to read early - age three or four - I don't remember NOT being able to read. And I wasn't any brighter than anyone else. I actually struggled in math, and was a below-average student.

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One of the students in my Cognitive Disability class also had an amazing ability to decode and say words correctly. But, his comprehension was almost completely nonexistent, and his overall skill levels were at the three year level. No matter how hard I tried to explain to his parents that just because their darling seven year old son was decoding high school and college level words he was not a genius that should be referred to the gifted and talented program (the apple did not fall far from the tree in the case of that family).
Yup! Hyperlexia. That's really sad they are excited and don't see what's really going on.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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I taught myself to read when I was two; I matched up the words on the page to the words my mother was speaking as she read to me. At some point I could pick up a brand new book and read it. At first, I didn't really comprehend what I was reading, but within a couple of months, I understood and could remember what I read. A lot of was newspaper stories about the Vietnam War.

However, I don't think that this can be *taught*. My mother had been a first grade teacher before I was born, and some people assumed she'd *taught* me to read. She enabled the learning by reading to me, but she didn't teach me. It happened more or less spontaneously
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