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Old 07-02-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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Thank you! So in other words I'm overthinking it. I suppose he's too young to really expect a school that isn't play centered.
ya, I have a feeling you are over thinking it, though, I maybe wrong. I would have been concerned if he hadnt learned anything at all but if he is in a position to say number/words/colors/animals etc, he is obviously learning more and not just play-play all the time.

These days, I started I started with a small exercise. Before i used to say, "please can you bring me your empty plate"....which is one instruction. Now i say something like, "please give this apple to daddy and bring the crayon which is in his hands". 2 instructions to help her follow. See if you can get him to focus enough to carry on two instructions. Small exercises like this help a lot.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Hillsborough
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My oldest daughter went to a Reggio-based daycare which we really liked. It did take forever to get in off the wait-list though. My younger daughter stayed in a home daycare setting until she was 2 years old. She had developmental delays and got speech and PT through early intervention. Our early intervention coordinator was actually the one who suggested to me that my daughter might do better in a daycare center setting where she would be around more kids her own age. My first inclination was to put her in the Reggio school that my oldest had attended, but the early intervention coordinator suggested a different school that was an inclusion center where there were half special needs kids and half typically developing kids. Once a child is 3, if they get an IEP for services, they can attend this center for free, which is what happened in our case. You might ask your early intervention coordinator for recommendations.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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please don't get caught in the habit of comparing your little boy to others his same age. Kids grow and learn at different rates.

also any home based care facility is going to "emphasize" play. They probably are not trained for any kind of academic classes and I don't think a 2.5 yo child should be involved in academics anyway. She has kids in her home so she doesn't have to leave the house. She has her laundry, her housecleaning and her own kids to care for. She doesn't want to get involved with "academics" anyway. Ask me how I know. I ran one in my own home. yes we read and colored and danced but all that is play and i wasn't about to do flash cards, etc with 2 and 3 year olds.

This is not the place for your boy. If he is not being disciplined the way you want he should be in a more formal setting but still not academics IMHO. Pushing a kid too early can be just as bad if not worse than letting them get behind.

I have 2 adopted girls only 4 months apart in age. I got into the bad habit of comparing them-not out loud but to myself. "Well "patty" can do xyz so why can't "mary" do it too?" kind of thing.

Patty was excelling and I began to push Mary. Not hard but I gave her more attention because it seemed she was struggling. She was bright and engaging and social so why couldn't she do that.

Before long we noticed she was biting her upper arm enough to show teeth marks and red. What was going on? A light bulb went off when I realized this was comparable to teens cutting themselves. Pronto I cut way back, let her go at her own pace and the biting stopped. I'm ashamed to say it lasted between 6 and 9 months before I got smart.

They both are now 12 years old and we kept "mary" back a year and had her tested as she struggles academically. She has learning disabilities but she works harder than any kid in her class. She is still bright and social and an absolute delight. But she won't ever be a rocket scientist!
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Hudson Valley region, NY
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I didn't read all the responses, just the original post but I can say that I have experience with Bright Horizons and highly recommend it. It is very much a classroom environment and would probably give him the structure that your son is currently not getting. Prior to that we used a relative and a friend up to about age 2, both were instances with no other children around except older ones for an hour or two after school. We keep hearing from parents of older children that the kids who went to BH were at the top of the classes, that they knew the year's curriculum by the 1/2 - 3/4 point of the year for Kindergarten.

Of course each school is going to be different, the staff and teachers make all the difference. I would recommend talking to Bright Horizons or Goddard or something similar, getting a tour of the school, and explaining to them what issues your son has (and as others have asked, how you came to believe that he has those issues), all of that combined should give you a good idea if he will fit in well there.

Good luck!
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Hudson Valley region, NY
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please don't get caught in the habit of comparing your little boy to others his same age. Kids grow and learn at different rates.

also any home based care facility is going to "emphasize" play. They probably are not trained for any kind of academic classes and I don't think a 2.5 yo child should be involved in academics anyway. She has kids in her home so she doesn't have to leave the house. She has her laundry, her housecleaning and her own kids to care for. She doesn't want to get involved with "academics" anyway. Ask me how I know. I ran one in my own home. yes we read and colored and danced but all that is play and i wasn't about to do flash cards, etc with 2 and 3 year olds.

This is not the place for your boy. If he is not being disciplined the way you want he should be in a more formal setting but still not academics IMHO. Pushing a kid too early can be just as bad if not worse than letting them get behind.

I have 2 adopted girls only 4 months apart in age. I got into the bad habit of comparing them-not out loud but to myself. "Well "patty" can do xyz so why can't "mary" do it too?" kind of thing.

Patty was excelling and I began to push Mary. Not hard but I gave her more attention because it seemed she was struggling. She was bright and engaging and social so why couldn't she do that.

Before long we noticed she was biting her upper arm enough to show teeth marks and red. What was going on? A light bulb went off when I realized this was comparable to teens cutting themselves. Pronto I cut way back, let her go at her own pace and the biting stopped. I'm ashamed to say it lasted between 6 and 9 months before I got smart.

They both are now 12 years old and we kept "mary" back a year and had her tested as she struggles academically. She has learning disabilities but she works harder than any kid in her class. She is still bright and social and an absolute delight. But she won't ever be a rocket scientist!
Excellent points. Just to add, after seeing Bright Horizons from age 2-5 I think it fits what is being recommended here. Up to pre-K they do a lot of activities in groups and learn about topics, but it definitely was not pushing them. Then in pre-K they started doing actual math, language and science activities with a lot of play mixed in.
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Old 07-02-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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He was evaluated and was said to have a little delay in speech and problems focusing.
Problems focusing could be any number of things, or nothing at all. Pretty much any day care center is going to be play-based, and have a similar schedule. Pick a few close to home and just see what they have to say.
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Old 07-02-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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I was concerned because other 2 year olds that I know were speaking very well and my son wasn't. He can say phrases such as "come here", "sit down", "I thirsty", "I hungry", etc. "Look at me", etc. But not as many sentences as a couple other 2 year olds I know. I can have a simple conversation, but he says a lot of jargon and we can't understand him when he speaks in jargon. Like he will often say a long phrase and I will often only be cake to point out two or three words within that 3 sentence phrase. He can count to 20, and knows his colors, animals, etc. He knows the alphabet. And can repeat things fine and is great at expressions and is very animated. But he is very hyper and wild and rough. I mean he's a boy lol. Anyway I called intervention in my state to see what they had to say and they were the ones who did the evaluation and recommended the speech therapist and the occupational therapist. He passed the doctors test though when she tested him back in April. The occupational therapist was recommended because they said he was hyper and needed help focusing. And they said his speech could be better as well.

The websites I've read for goddard is that it's play focused with learning centered around play, the Montessori seems play based too but seems to also be more structured and stresses a variety of subjects that can be applied to the real world as they age. I can't find a school with the highscope method which seems to probably be what he would need the most.
I am going to jump in and say something I do not normally say. I am a teacher, and truly believe in getting to the root of problems in order to differentiate instruction.

If he were my son, I would be VERY, VERY unwilling to label a 2 1/2 year old as ANYTHING. That would include "hyper", "behind", etc and would be wary of the specialists who are calling him these things.

If he is hyper, I think taking him out of play based environment would be a bad idea. A toddler who has high energy is one who needs more activity NOT LESS. Developmentally they are just not in the stage where they are ready to begin to learn to develop focus. That is much later, at 3.5-4 or later for many kids.

Unless you think he is on the spectrum (and nothing suggests he is) I would continue on allowing him access to a high energy environment while he is still in a stage where he is developing large motor skills (which it sounds like he is). There is little to suggest that trying to force a different stage of development (and focusing for longer periods of time on activities like books is part of his next stage) is a good idea and to be very honest could end up setting the stage of making him "hate" learning since he is not developmentally ready for the stage you want him to be at.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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I was concerned because other 2 year olds that I know were speaking very well and my son wasn't. He can say phrases such as "come here", "sit down", "I thirsty", "I hungry", etc. "Look at me", etc. But not as many sentences as a couple other 2 year olds I know. I can have a simple conversation, but he says a lot of jargon and we can't understand him when he speaks in jargon. Like he will often say a long phrase and I will often only be cake to point out two or three words within that 3 sentence phrase. He can count to 20, and knows his colors, animals, etc. He knows the alphabet. And can repeat things fine and is great at expressions and is very animated. But he is very hyper and wild and rough. I mean he's a boy lol. Anyway I called intervention in my state to see what they had to say and they were the ones who did the evaluation and recommended the speech therapist and the occupational therapist. He passed the doctors test though when she tested him back in April. The occupational therapist was recommended because they said he was hyper and needed help focusing. And they said his speech could be better as well.

The websites I've read for goddard is that it's play focused with learning centered around play, the Montessori seems play based too but seems to also be more structured and stresses a variety of subjects that can be applied to the real world as they age. I can't find a school with the highscope method which seems to probably be what he would need the most.
No one's talking to him.

Whats the bet "nanny" shoves him in front of the tv and reads a book.

He needs day care, a good one. And lots of talking with mum and dad when they get home.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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Lady he is 2.5. He is not going to be focused. The things that should be structured are meal times and bed times. All other times he should be playing. Geeze, let him be a little kid for a while.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:34 AM
 
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This very simple. Decrease your income buy GOD knows what. Move to a neighborhood where all the day cares are crappy because the state pays for them and the owners just care about the boat load of money they make; off low-waged parents who can't afford any better. Then you will no choice.. other than to appreciate the fact that you actually have a choice! I have 3 educators in my family. Education of the child is based 60% on how much the parents enforces the 40% that learn in institutions. Many people go to what 1 might call a bad school and go to ivy league Colleges because of focus, determination and in many cases good parents. How well your child learns and absorbs info is up to you as parent not an institution. ***Well that wraps up another episode of say with me" RICH PEOPLE PROBLEMS""***
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