Cost of being a red state (Utica: income, agricultural, pollution)

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

I disagree hundred percent. This economy has nothing to do with Obama. The tax cut was the greatest change to this economy along with pulling heavy regulations off of businesses and pulling out of bad trade deals

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live-...112742973.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...my%3f_amp=true

Most of Trump's regulatory cuts socked it to the environment and boosted fossil fuel production. Many rollbacks are those promoted by climate change deniers and will hasten the dire consequences of man-made climate change which Trump, Congressional Republican and other man-made climate change deniers don't want to hear about, let alone discuss intelligently.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-reversed.html

E.g., the Trump administration eliminated Obama regulations that prevented the wasteful flaring of natural gas.

blogs.edf.org/texascleanairmatters/2017/11/14/new-texas-permian-oil-and-gas-flaring-report-reveals-excessive-gas-waste-and-major-gaps-in-operator-flaring-practices/

As Oil and Gas Industry Goes Big in the Permian, Efforts to Tackle Emissions Will Be Telling

Now Trump wants to roll back rules designed to limit methane leaks. Methane is 80 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and leaks also cost the federal government royalty income.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...p-epa-rollback

Gutting the environment can be very profitable for special interests in the short run, but disastrously costly for the entire society in the long run.

Trump has done nothing to eliminate the greatest barrier to U.S. competitiveness -- the fact that every other nation has value-added tax systems that allow rebates of VATs for exports. Trump has alienated Mexico, Canada and other major trading partners who likely will diversify their economies away from the unreliable U.S. in coming years. E.g., Mexico now is importing many more agricultural commodities from Brazil. Canada is making massive investments to export energy to Asia. By alienating allies, Trump has much less ability to organized a block to fight predatory economic policies engaged in by China.

[1watertiger]

Originally Posted by WRnative

Most of Trump's regulatory cuts socked it to the environment and boosted fossil fuel production. Many rollbacks are those promoted by climate change deniers and will hasten the dire consequences of man-made climate change which Trump, Congressional Republican and other man-made climate change deniers don't want to hear about, let alone discuss intelligently.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-reversed.html

E.g., the Trump administration eliminated Obama regulations that prevented the wasteful flaring of natural gas.

blogs.edf.org/texascleanairmatters/2017/11/14/new-texas-permian-oil-and-gas-flaring-report-reveals-excessive-gas-waste-and-major-gaps-in-operator-flaring-practices/

As Oil and Gas Industry Goes Big in the Permian, Efforts to Tackle Emissions Will Be Telling

Now Trump wants to roll back rules designed to limit methane leaks. Methane is 80 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and leaks also cost the federal government royalty income.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...p-epa-rollback

Gutting the environment can be very profitable for special interests in the short run, but disastrously costly for the entire society in the long run.

Trump has done nothing to eliminate the greatest barrier to U.S. competitiveness -- the fact that every other nation has value-added tax systems that allow rebates of VATs for exports. Trump has alienated Mexico, Canada and other major trading partners who likely will diversify their economies away from the unreliable U.S. in coming years. E.g., Mexico now is importing many more agricultural commodities from Brazil. Canada is making massive investments to export energy to Asia. By alienating allies, Trump has much less ability to organized a block to fight predatory economic policies engaged in by China.

All speculation . Assumptions and a general "I hope the president fails" mentality just like the main stream news. Get over it already. Your messiah is gone. And the wicked witch is dead.
And why waste so much time writing about the hoax climate change??
Have you no knowledge of our governments weather changing device called "HAARP" ?

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

All speculation . Assumptions and a general "I hope the president fails" mentality just like the main stream news. Get over it already. Your messiah is gone. And the wicked witch is dead.
And why waste so much time writing about the hoax climate change??
Have you no knowledge of our governments weather changing device called "HAARP" ?

Hoax? Apparently the conservative Supreme Court even disagrees with you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.337c73191915

In Juliana v. United States, now allowed to proceed by the Supreme Court, young Americans seek to halt our dependency on fossil fuels in order to preserve our environment for future generations. The Supreme Court justices, most of whom have children, obviously believe that they have a good case.

https://psmag.com/environment/meet-t...imate-policies

I don't hope President Trump fails. It's just clear to me that he is an egomaniac whose position on man-made climate change and many of his economic policies will result in long-term disasters.

Trumpie man-made climate change deniers obviously believe that Trump's "natural instinct for science" trumps (pun intended) all of the world's best climate and marine scientists and biologists. Frighteningly disgusting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce/1674336002/

Persons can evaluate the debunking of your "Big Lie," denier propaganda in this thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...ange-ohio.html

Again what happens to the 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuel burning that accumulates, with emissions from previous years, in the earth's atmosphere and oceans. The oceans have absorbed over 90 percent of the excess heat associated with greenhouse gas emissions, with already dire consequences empirically measured and explained by scientists. Unfortunately the evil twin of man-made climate change -- ocean acidification -- is destroying along with ocean warming much of the world's coral reefs even NOW. Trump and his denier supporters don't care, and actually want to increase fossil fuel consumption.

https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/inve...-acidification

So I believe in the pure hearts of kids, the scientists, and the empirical data, and not "Big Lie" man-made climate change science deniers.

[dodeca]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Top notch professors want to work at top notch universities. The top notch universities have already been established (for now at least; it takes a long time to ascend nowadays). This is all just general. Of course Ohio does have some truly top of the line profs and programs (especially at the schools I've mentioned). But I think many other states just flat out have more because their elite institutions are just more plentiful and "sexier".

I do have quite a lot of experience with this at one of the aforementioned colleges here. I'm not celebrating this, but this is how it seems to me, from the inside. I know how funding works, I know how professors are, I know how curriculum is developed etc. It's really not as easy as just getting more funding (I wish it were). Even just the funding has thousands of strings attached, even for very simple sounding stuff. I deal with this on the daily.

In the current paradigm, this is true; but in the recent past states have invested and aimed to reach a higher Carnegie research level, increase federal, private and corporate research funding, and massively recruit new faculty. Arizona State is a good example of that; Michigan State is another example. Many of the UC campuses were not globally competitive in the 1960s. Ohio can build a better university research infrastructure that can fuel growth in the state, or it can aim at the middle and below with workforce development, inelastic eds and meds, and logistics. Ohio has too many mid-level universities, and needs to rebalance with more emphasis on bigger research institutions with a global reach.

[1watertiger]

Originally Posted by WRnative

Hoax? Apparently the conservative Supreme Court even disagrees with you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.337c73191915

In Juliana v. United States, now allowed to proceed by the Supreme Court, young Americans seek to halt our dependency on fossil fuels in order to preserve our environment for future generations. The Supreme Court justices, most of whom have children, obviously believe that they have a good case.

https://psmag.com/environment/meet-t...imate-policies

I don't hope President Trump fails. It's just clear to me that he is an egomaniac whose position on man-made climate change and many of his economic policies will result in long-term disasters.

Trumpie man-made climate change deniers obviously believe that Trump's "natural instinct for science" trumps (pun intended) all of the world's best climate and marine scientists and biologists. Frighteningly disgusting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce/1674336002/

Persons can evaluate the debunking of your "Big Lie," denier propaganda in this thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...ange-ohio.html

Again what happens to the 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuel burning that accumulates, with emissions from previous years, in the earth's atmosphere and oceans. The oceans have absorbed over 90 percent of the excess heat associated with greenhouse gas emissions, with already dire consequences empirically measured and explained by scientists. Unfortunately the evil twin of man-made climate change -- ocean acidification -- is destroying along with ocean warming much of the world's coral reefs even NOW. Trump and his denier supporters don't care, and actually want to increase fossil fuel consumption.

https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/inve...-acidification

So I believe in the pure hearts of kids, the scientists, and the empirical data, and not "Big Lie" man-made climate change science deniers.

And that's all fine and good. And you might be right. So how does our government HAARP program fit into the equation? and with the common knowledge of our governments HAARP program , does green energy makes sense over fossil fuel? Just wondering your opinion

[TheProf]

Saying California's devastating and heartbreaking fires is God's punishment for liberalism is exactly the kind of knuckle-dragging stupidity we get from Republicans far too often, especially here in Ohio. The fact that Ohio had a near clean sweep for the GOP 2 Tuesday's ago sadden me and made me realize how backwards too much of Ohio really is. We're not just out of step with other industrial states in the East and Midwest, we're out of touch with reality.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0d9e7283c5f06

[Natural510]

Originally Posted by TheProf

Saying California's devastating and heartbreaking fires is God's punishment for liberalism is exactly the kind of knuckle-dragging stupidity we get from Republicans far too often, especially here in Ohio. The fact that Ohio had a near clean sweep for the GOP 2 Tuesday's ago sadden me and made me realize how backwards too much of Ohio really is. We're not just out of step with other industrial states in the East and Midwest, we're out of touch with reality.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0d9e7283c5f06

The ironic part is those fires devastated the most Republican areas of the state. Not that it should matter.

[JR_C]

The gerrymandering of districts is supposed to be addressed in a few years. (2021?) If we can hold things together until then, hopefully Ohio will go back to being a purple state.

[mike1003]

Originally Posted by WRnative

<<But Cordray’s most daunting problem in this campaign is one he can’t control: Ohio’s inexorable descent into red-state status, a development that has coincided with a stunning decline in its demographics related to education, workforce readiness, poverty and population.>>
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Descent my a$$ it was a long assent into red state status

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by mike1003

Descent my a$$ it was a long assent into red state status

Please read through this thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...rformance.html

See post 2 which shows that Ohio's median household income has declined 30 percent adjusted for inflation since 2000.

In what way do you believe Ohio is better off as a red state?

Are you a champion of restrictions on privacy rights, such as banning abortions when a mother/couple discovers their child has a diagnosis for Down Syndrome?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ked/427408002/

Do you favor loose environmental regulation which has tolerated agricultural nutrient pollution of Ohio waterways, leading to toxic algal blooms in the western Lake Erie basin and elsewhere in the state? See last few paragraphs of post 5 in this thread as well as read through the following thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/cleve...al-blooms.html

Do you favor inflation-adjusted cuts to Ohio public education?

Do you favor the injection under high pressures (over 2,000 psi) of radioactive fracking waste water under Ohio potable fresh water aquifers? Do you favor this practice even though it has led to Ohio taking shipments from other states that ban this practice, making the Ohio the dumping ground for Marcellus/Utica shale oil boom? Do you not worry about the long-term consequences of this practice even though there is little regulation?

See posts 22, 23, 67, 88 and several other posts in this thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...dumping-3.html

Are you in favor of a stand-your-ground gun bill?

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/in..._offerin.htmlk

Ascent? Nope.