04-18-2008, 01:12 PM
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yeah that area on the potomac side of rt7 is Leesburg and on the S(/) side is Ashburn.
Stupid yes, I agree since it's closer to "ashburn" than the town of Leesburg. It's all "unicoporated" leesburg as well. All that development along Riverside PKwy. So I know the water rates there are double what our were inside the city limits of Leesburg. Always alot of articles about that as well.
There is also a new development along 267 and evergreen mills rd that is near "brambleton" and it too has a leesburg address. I consider it Ashburn as well.
04-18-2008, 01:21 PM
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Countryside is Sterling; make no mistake about it. Ever hear of East Palo Alto? Most people know that it is a crime ridden shiitehole nothing like Palo Alto--but it IS adjacent.
04-18-2008, 02:07 PM
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Countryside is Sterling; make no mistake about it. Ever hear of East Palo Alto? Most people know that it is a crime ridden shiitehole nothing like Palo Alto--but it IS adjacent.
Hmmm, that's interesting. This is a completely different situation, however.
Palo Alto and East Palo Alto are both incorporated cities that have similar, but
different names. I wouldn't mind having names like "Sterling," "West Sterling," and "North Sterling" to tell communities apart.
But it's a nuisance to call everything by the same name. Like having a family where all the kids are named George Foreman. Funny? Yes. Endearing, maybe. Confusing and aggravating--absolutely.
We are talking about a variety of communities that have been assigned the
same name , simply because they are
not incorporated. The name "Sterling" was simply assigned to a general rural area by the Post Office back when Loudoun was farmland. That's right, there is no city government known as "Sterling."
This is really all about the right to exist and be recognized without creating city governments. Because city governments are expensive, pointless organizations of unneeded beaurocracy. A remnant from the last century, IMO. The communities currently labelled "Sterling" are different from each other and have unofficial boundaries, even if they are all officially clumped together under an arbitrary name.
Do you really need to have a mayor and expensive city employees to know the difference between Broad Run Farms, Countryside, Dulles, Cascades, Sterling Park, and Sugarland Run? These towns have distinct personalities, the only thing they don't have is a city hall and city taxes. And for that reason they are not entitled to have the names that everyone uses for them, and they are not entitled to be included on maps. Doesn't that seem stupid--not to mention confusing?
Some cities have a similar situation with communities that have been annexed by the main city. But in those situations the annexed communities get the benefit of city services in exchange for giving up their name. As I said before, there is no city called Sterling that annexed the communities around it--all of Eastern Loudoun County is unincorporated.
Even the post office has given up. That's right, the people who assigned the name Sterling in the first place have grudgingly accepted that since so many people call it Potomac Falls, you can write Potomac Falls on an envelope and your mail will be properly delivered. What they need to do is make it official, so people can decide if they want to use Potomac Falls as the name, or split it one step further into Countryside and Cascades. I think I would probably vote for splitting the two into Countryside and Cascades, because these are really populated areas that have distinct differences.
It made sense to have a huge catch-all boundary when Loudoun was rural. Now it's time for a change (IMO). Since there is no central city anyway, it would be just as logical to split Sterling into the six distinct communities of Broad Run Farms, Countryside, Dulles, Cascades, Sterling Park, and Sugarland Run. (Or, they could make it five communties using Potomac Falls as a name.) And it would be logical to start including these communities on maps. Because whether or not they are incorporated, these communities exist and people need to know where they are.
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04-18-2008, 11:52 PM
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Norm, It's the same deal in Springfield. You can refer to one of the 30 or 40 subdivisions in Springfield (Cardinal Square, Cardinal Forest, Crestwood, Lynbrook, Springfield Estates, etc..) or you can just say Springfield, or you could specify West Springfield, North Springfield, or the Little League families (National Champs 1993) call it "Central."
It depends on where you are and who you are speaking with. Sometimes, we just say Fairfax County. I remember my dad telling someone in Missouri that we were from DC. His response was "How do you feel about your kids going to school with the coloreds...." Then, we were from Northern Virginia.
04-19-2008, 05:43 AM
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Norm, It's the same deal in Springfield. You can refer to one of the 30 or 40 subdivisions in Springfield (Cardinal Square, Cardinal Forest, Crestwood, Lynbrook, Springfield Estates, etc..) or you can just say Springfield, or you could specify West Springfield, North Springfield, or the Little League families (National Champs 1993) call it "Central."
LOL, I can see we have a basic difference in perspective... because you are doing the same thing to
my name! I am not Norm, I am Normie.
I know, I know, you think that names are meaningless. The word "normie" doesn't have much meaning, it's true... but here's what it
does mean. It means I am not Norm. Norm is another member who regularly participates. He says some great things, but I don't want people to confuse us. We have different opinions. People weigh the things I say based on other things I've said. If you combine us into one person, we'd both come off sounding like hypocrites.
It's the same way with towns. You need a way to tell different places apart. I don't know much about Springfield, but if Springfield is just an arbitrary name assigned to an enormous geographic area, IMO that's confusing and needs to be changed. If they have a bunch of unincorporated communities without a central city, then each community deserves to officially have its own name.
It's a matter of organization. If a community is populated enough to have its own zip code then it is populated enough to have its own name and to be included on maps. Otherwise people start using unofficial nicknames, and that gets muddled.
Right now people moving into my daughter's neighborhood don't know if they live in Sterling, Lowes Island, Cascades or Potomac Falls. When you're new, you have enough headaches. You don't have time to play games--you're simply trying to find a dentist or the nearest shoe store or a local church. And multiple nicknames for communities are especially aggravating for small business owners. It's hard enough to run a local business these days--why do we need to add to the stress?
And the post office knows this, too. That's why they split communities into separate zip codes. So I'll say it again:
If a community is populated enough to have its own zip code then it is populated enough to officially have its own name and to be included on maps.
Not that I care enough to incorporate a city... LOL! But since the subject came up, I'll take the opportunity to step up to the soapbox. One more time: Community names shouldn't be about building City Halls, it should simply be a matter of population.
There, I feel better!
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04-19-2008, 10:18 AM
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I used to have a colleague who lived in the 20165 zip code who would go into a deep rage if anyone dared to suggest that he lived in Sterling. He'd scream "IT'S POTOMAC FALLS!". Sad thing is it's just a zip code, property taxes still go to Loudoun, HOA fees to Cascades, Countryside, or whatever development you're in. So the town name means very little, but the identity crisis behind it is pathetic.
This is insecurity to the nth degree, where you live doesn't define you. I have lived in 20165 since 1992, when it was all called Sterling and I have always used Sterling as a return address, even though I lived in Cascades and now live in Lowes Island.
04-19-2008, 11:11 AM
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I can see your point of view. And it's true--the longer you live in an area the more it probably looks like an issue of vanity.
After all, a real estate agent who's lived in Sterling for more than 15 years probably knows all the streets by name. You already know where things are, so community names become a matter of personal identity.
I'm looking at it from the perspective of new residents. Picture this: You're a mother, you've just moved to Countryside and started a new job. Your kid gets injured, and you have to get him to a doctor. You have to get back to work, you don't want to waste gas, you need to find a medical office near your house.
Your insurance has a list of doctor names, most of whom have offices in Leesburg and Sterling. But what does that mean? Some places that are called "Leesburg" are close, but some are far. And some parts labelled "Sterling" are close, some are way down by Dulles Airport.
If the directory listed the addresses as being in "Lansdowne" or "Cascades" you would have an idea where the doctors were. But no... all you get is a list of 30 names, each of which have offices in Sterling and Leesburg. And you have no idea which ones are close and which ones are far.
You're calling from your car, so you can't do a google search on addresses. And street names don't mean anything to you yet.
So... let's take a test. You want the doctor's office closest to Countryside.
Do you choose the doctor on:
1. Deerfield Ave. in Leesburg? How are you supposed to guess where that is? Maybe that's in the medical center in Lansdowne, so it would be close... or it might be in some other community assigned to Leesburg. Which means it might be a 20-mile drive from Countryside.
2. Glenn Drive because that's in Sterling? Should you assume it's nearby because Countryside is also in Sterling?
3. Pidgeon Hill Drive in Sterling?
3. Indian Creek Drive in Sterling?
Answer: the doctor on Pidgeon Hill Drive--that's in Countryside. Which you'd know if the address was offically listed as Countryside, not Sterling. The next best choice is Deerfield Drive in Leesburg, which is actually in Lansdowne--just down the road from Countryside. Glenn Drive, OTOH, is a long drive from Countryside. You'd know that if the Directory address said "Sterling Park." And you'd know to avoid Indian Creek Drive, which is near the airport.
When the only choice is Leesburg or Sterling, a new resident can't make an intelligent choice. After all it's easy for new residents to learn the names of the nearby communities--but it's not reasonable to expect them to know where places are just by the names of the streets.
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I just saw a SFR in Countryside (20165) for 233K on Countrywide.com (REO). So, whatever the hell you want to call it; it's a lot cheaper than it was 2 years ago--like 40% less.
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Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)