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Is the "Raleigh doesn't have an innovation district" narrative just another backhanded way of putting the city down?
That said, Raleigh does have Centennial Campus at NC State that is just SW of downtown and that is exactly its mission, and it has been so for a few decades now.
Downtown has two large employers: Citrix (Sharefile) and RedHat that were both locally born companies that have since been acquired and both companies have invested in significant downtown Raleigh operations. ...no innovation there, huh?
The Warehouse District has also organically grown into an innovation district over the last few decades.
For all of the insults and slights that Raleigh seems to get from all its brethren in the state, it has ascended like no other city has. In the middle of the last century, Raleigh was smaller than Greensboro, Durham and Winston-Salem. Over just a few decades, it passed them one by one and has never looked back. Heck, even its largest suburb, Cary, has gone from nearly nothing to a municipality larger than many legacy cities in the state. Luckily for Charlotte's ego, Raleigh will never pass it due to the limitations of its boundaries. Now, to be sure, I am not saying that it will pass Charlotte in other ways, I'm just saying that it's impossible for Raleigh to pass it in municipal population.
God help Charlotte's ego when Raleigh starts sprouting a significant skyline.
It's just what it is when it comes this forum man. You don't see it hardly anywhere else. I'm not sure anybody from Raleigh on here says anything bad about Charlotte, Durham, Greensboro, Wilmington, WS etc. Well except for like architect77, but I thought they were from ATL anyways. It's the usual clubbing over the head and comparisons to Charlotte when nobody asks for them because we know we're not as large, but then it's also the nitpicks from the smaller cities posters perhaps of jealousy? Idk? Not really sure why NC development can't just be discussed across the board without the elbow rubbing and side eye behavior. But oh well...
It would have been nice if Raleigh had attempted to do something like Winston-Salem and Durham and build an innovation district downtown. These are the "research parks" of the 21st century.
Centennial Campus is sufficient enough. The downtown innovation district concept works better in downtown Winston-Salem and Durham because they had a lot of old spacious warehouses that could be adaptively reused for such a purpose.
Centennial Campus is sufficient enough. The downtown innovation district concept works better in downtown Winston-Salem and Durham because they had a lot of old spacious warehouses that could be adaptively reused for such a purpose.
And Greenville....where ECU is setting up part of the Millennial campus in the warehouse district...
I have to laugh at the juxtaposition of these two maps.
The first one suggests that a shrunken Wake would be less populated (of course it would), while the second one shows a broad view of the Charlotte metropolitan area while ignoring that anything exists outside of Wake in the Triangle. You can't have it both ways.
I don't think that anyone would argue that Charlotte's metro isn't larger than the Triangle's, but we have to compare them apples to apples. I don't think that anyone could successfully argue that Charlotte's urban area footprint isn't both more sprawled and more populated than the Triangle's, but you can't take a wide view of one place and compare it to a narrow view of another, no matter what the commuting patterns say in multi-nodal metro like the Triangle. Invisible lines of municipalities, counties, metros, etc. aren't actually there and the Triangle and its collection of entities doesn't stop at them because of what the OMB says.
It seems to be a common theme among many in this forum to look for whatever metric/story/visual one can find to make Raleigh seem as tiny as possible. Are we THAT threatening to Charlotte's ego?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Charlotte is larger than the Triangle, but the delta isn't some sort of astronomical difference. NC is lucky to have both, and most states would KILL to have the one-two punch of these fast growing metros.
I’m not reading the last block of paragraph but I want to address your misunderstanding in the first.
I said if Mecklenburg was blown up to Wakes size. Therefore, I show a map zoomed out of Mecklenburg.
I said if Wake was shrunk to Mecklenburgs size. So I showed a map of Wake county.
It's just what it is when it comes this forum man. You don't see it hardly anywhere else. I'm not sure anybody from Raleigh on here says anything bad about Charlotte, Durham, Greensboro, Wilmington, WS etc. Well except for like architect77, but I thought they were from ATL anyways. It's the usual clubbing over the head and comparisons to Charlotte when nobody asks for them because we know we're not as large, but then it's also the nitpicks from the smaller cities posters perhaps of jealousy? Idk? Not really sure why NC development can't just be discussed across the board without the elbow rubbing and side eye behavior. But oh well...
I think it’s much more civil than other areas. Baltimore and DC among many other pairs lol are fairly cut throat. Lol.
Is the "Raleigh doesn't have an innovation district" narrative just another backhanded way of putting the city down?
That said, Raleigh does have Centennial Campus at NC State that is just SW of downtown and that is exactly its mission, and it has been so for a few decades now.
Downtown has two large employers: Citrix (Sharefile) and RedHat that were both locally born companies that have since been acquired and both companies have invested in significant downtown Raleigh operations. ...no innovation there, huh?
The Warehouse District has also organically grown into an innovation district over the last few decades.
For all of the insults and slights that Raleigh seems to get from all its brethren in the state, it has ascended like no other city has. In the middle of the last century, Raleigh was smaller than Greensboro, Durham and Winston-Salem. Over just a few decades, it passed them one by one and has never looked back. Heck, even its largest suburb, Cary, has gone from nearly nothing to a municipality larger than many legacy cities in the state. Luckily for Charlotte's ego, Raleigh will never pass it due to the limitations of its boundaries. Now, to be sure, I am not saying that it will pass Charlotte in other ways, I'm just saying that it's impossible for Raleigh to pass it in municipal population.
God help Charlotte's ego when Raleigh starts sprouting a significant skyline.
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